The Sundering has launched...

[D'karr]

Once you ignore the races, classes, locations, names, stats, spells, deities, religions, organizations and history -- it is all obviously Bioware/Black Isle IP.

LOL

 

[Derren]

And @Derren you're still editing in additional content to your posts after my replies. I won't be searching your old posts for new content, I'm afraid, so those items will go overlooked. Please put new content in new posts, as I asked above. Thanks.

If you look at your posting times you are posting way after my edits.

 

[Derren]

Once you ignore the races, classes, locations, names, stats, spells, deities, religions, organizations and history -- it is all obviously Bioware/Black Isle IP.

And how much of that really mattered in Baldurs Gate?
Dragon Age has shown that there is no problem with replacing a generic fantasy setting (which FR is) with another.

 

[Morrus]

If you look at your posting times you are posting way after my edits.

I don't want to get into a lengthy debate about the times when one hits the reply button and the submit button other than that there is a finite period of time between the two. But that aside, please put new content in new posts; I am seeing even now additional content in a post that wasn't there when I originally hit reply. Thanks. The edit button is best used to correct typos and the like, not to add entirely new paragraphs and points.

It's just a little courteous request to help make this conversation possible. I'd appreciate it.

 

[n00bdragon]

"For the last time." Sure, until they change it again. Raise your hand if you've heard this line or something like it from comic books before. The gods of Forgotten Realms bow to Ao, and Ao bows the most supreme god of all: The Status Quo.

 

[Derren]

I don't want to get into a lengthy debate about the times when one hits the reply button and the submit button other than that there is a finite period of time between the two. But that aside, please put new content in new posts; I am seeing even now additional content in a post that wasn't there when I originally hit reply. Thanks. The edit button is best used to correct typos and the like, not to add entirely new paragraphs and points.

I usually don't like double posting in a thread but ok.
I don't think there is any need to say any more anyway.

I don't like that WotC is using a game they hardly acknowledged before and had no active influence in to now heavily promote the new edition. I also see WotC resorting to this either as a lack of ideas or, imo more likely, as a fear by WotC that the FR has lost too much of its brand recognition to hype/attract PnP players on its own.
And if WotC really only uses the symbols and the Sundering has no real connection to the video games it is especially audacious (is that the correct one? There are so many different words for that concept in English).

 

[billd91]

And how much of that really mattered in Baldurs Gate?

Quite a bit. Truth is, most people bought it because it was a computer RPG version of D&D, not because it was Bioware/Black Isle. They were the ones who were making a game using licensed IP, that their own IP is also in there doesn't negate that fact.

 

[Morrus]

And if WotC really only uses the symbols has the Sundering has no real connection the the video games it is especially audacious (is that the correct one? There are so many different words for that concept in English).

Which symbol are you referring to? The Bhaal symbol? It predates Baldur's Gate by at least a decade.

 

[Derren]

Quite a bit. Truth is, most people bought it because it was a computer RPG version of D&D, not because it was Bioware/Black Isle. They were the ones who were making a game using licensed IP, that their own IP is also in there doesn't negate that fact.

I remember it quite differently.
The first game was bought because it was a RPG in a time where this genre was thought dead. And the second one was bought because it was Baldurs Gate (franchise) and Black Island/Bioware. That fame followed them to Neverwinter, Dragon Age and Mass Effect.
Some people might have bought them because of D&D, but no one credited WotC with the success of the games.

 

[Derren]

Which symbol are you referring to? The Bhaal symbol? It predates Baldur's Gate by at least a decade.

Yes the Bhaal symbol.
And while it predates Baldurs Gate, as far as I know, there was no specific link between Bladurs Gate and Bhaal & his symbol before the video game. Correct me when I am wrong.
But now the complete city map of Baldurs Gate is plastered over with Bhaal symbols. Why? Coincidence? Certainly not.