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The Usage of the Non-Sequitur "4e is a Tactical Skirmish Game"
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<blockquote data-quote="Pour" data-source="post: 5983701" data-attributes="member: 59411"><p>Well, for starters, my opinion of the poster immediately drops when they resort to it. If they continue, I usually add them to my ignore list. I usually end up ignoring those 'armchair warriors', too, you know, the ones not willing to claim it themselves for fear of reprisal or banning, but sort of latch on to one of these outspoken individuals and support them with faulty logic, only to vanish when it gets too dicey. They actually grind my gears even more. From a public eye, we all shake our head at the obvious falseness of the one decrying 4e nothing more than a skirmish game, but the ones who interject their subtle support using half-logic validate these people and end up slipping back into the forums for the next outburst. The loud detractor has anger or frustration as his excuse, but the armchair warriors have something I find much more venomous.</p><p></p><p>I voted the cause was more some sort of catharsis, but goading is a huge side effect. But catharsis has too many positive connotations to be used in this instance for me. It's ego stroking, it's displaced anger, it's selfish desire, it's close-minded, brutish, and done without a thought because </p><p></p><p>1. This is the internet and we'll never see his or her face, thus manners and accountability are apparently out the window for some.</p><p></p><p>2. He or she knows there's other haters out there, somehow making his claim right, a self-validating thing. Because of this, the person might actually think he or she is right.</p><p></p><p>3. There's certain prerequisite for when this stuff appears, when a person feels threatened. It happened in 2008, it happened all throughout 4e's lifespan as the edition generated actual fans with different views, and it's happening now with the advent of 5e, the idea that the new edition will incorporate all D&D, and the fear and loathing of including something they don't want.</p><p></p><p>My advise would be to offer what actual discussion and opposition you can, and utterly ignore the armchair warriors. If the outspoken individual will not back off, then leave it alone. Rest assured for everyone posting, there's as many if not more reading, and we don't agree with these extremists.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pour, post: 5983701, member: 59411"] Well, for starters, my opinion of the poster immediately drops when they resort to it. If they continue, I usually add them to my ignore list. I usually end up ignoring those 'armchair warriors', too, you know, the ones not willing to claim it themselves for fear of reprisal or banning, but sort of latch on to one of these outspoken individuals and support them with faulty logic, only to vanish when it gets too dicey. They actually grind my gears even more. From a public eye, we all shake our head at the obvious falseness of the one decrying 4e nothing more than a skirmish game, but the ones who interject their subtle support using half-logic validate these people and end up slipping back into the forums for the next outburst. The loud detractor has anger or frustration as his excuse, but the armchair warriors have something I find much more venomous. I voted the cause was more some sort of catharsis, but goading is a huge side effect. But catharsis has too many positive connotations to be used in this instance for me. It's ego stroking, it's displaced anger, it's selfish desire, it's close-minded, brutish, and done without a thought because 1. This is the internet and we'll never see his or her face, thus manners and accountability are apparently out the window for some. 2. He or she knows there's other haters out there, somehow making his claim right, a self-validating thing. Because of this, the person might actually think he or she is right. 3. There's certain prerequisite for when this stuff appears, when a person feels threatened. It happened in 2008, it happened all throughout 4e's lifespan as the edition generated actual fans with different views, and it's happening now with the advent of 5e, the idea that the new edition will incorporate all D&D, and the fear and loathing of including something they don't want. My advise would be to offer what actual discussion and opposition you can, and utterly ignore the armchair warriors. If the outspoken individual will not back off, then leave it alone. Rest assured for everyone posting, there's as many if not more reading, and we don't agree with these extremists. [/QUOTE]
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