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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 5983921" data-attributes="member: 6696971">I disagree completely.  See Morrus's post above and my immediately prior post.  It is not that the survey is weighted, it is that the statement "4e is <just> a Tactical Skirmish Game" is loaded by its very nature (see my above post).  In effect, it is saying that the ruleset, with regards to RPGing (our hobby), is shallow and trite and cannot incorporate actual RPGing (hence people using it interchangably with "4e is not an RPG.").  That statement then, by proxy, transfers the weight of the implication onto the advocates; "when playing 4e, you are not an RPGer".  The fact that the statement is loaded with 1st order and 2nd order implications is not within the locus of control of a poll asking about the reflexive response of those who are dealing with the loaded statement.  Further, there are only so many motives that will underwrite such a statement on an internet message board (whose express purpose is to exchange ideas about our hobby in a congenial, polite, respectful fashion).  I feel that the poll canvasses them; (i) persuade in good faith, (ii) gratuitously provoke, (iii) share in communion with like-minded thinkers (preach to the choir), (iv) achieve catharsis through celebration of the statement as a statement unto itself (high-fiving with those you share fellowship or merely opining to socially cavort or read your words on the internet).  That is a good question and may provide an answer that may be illuminating.  However, again, that is a completely separate question and not the question I wanted answered.</blockquote>

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