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The Usage of the Non-Sequitur "4e is a Tactical Skirmish Game"
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<blockquote data-quote="Ahnehnois" data-source="post: 5996224" data-attributes="member: 17106"><p>When I see this kind of thing, I think it's a consequence of political correctness. I think the person writing it is trying to make a point about how they think 4e lost some essential aspect of D&D, but is trying to find the least inflammatory language possible to do it.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, the result is that each new phrase people pick to criticize 4e sets off the same arguments, meaning that it becomes charged. Eventually, any time it's used, it will carry the connotation of edition warring. I try to avoid these kinds of catchphrases, which frankly is not easy given how many of them there are. However, I think most people who use them simply have not read the thousands of pages of prior threads and are genuinely attempting to articulate a critical point.</p><p></p><p>FWIW I think it's bizarrely inaccurate. If I were to see the phrase "tactical skirmish game" outside of this context, I would think of a highly realistic simulation involving intricate, in-world tactical choices (i.e. "that guy has heavy armor, we need to use a greataxe against him" is a tactical choice, "that guy looks powerful, I'll decide that my one opportunity per day to hit him hard occurs now" is not). D&D is not a tactical skirmish game, being not particularly realistic, nor focused on minutia like facing and hit locations, and 4e is even less tactical than the other editions.</p><p></p><p>***</p><p></p><p>Wonder what would happen if the same poll were ran for phrases like "15 minute adventuring day" or "quadratic wizards/linear warriors", which I think are used to be inflammatory at least as often as the above but don't seem to be called out as such.</p><p></p><p>***</p><p></p><p>Ah, so it's *public*, but only for a select few. Say what?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ahnehnois, post: 5996224, member: 17106"] When I see this kind of thing, I think it's a consequence of political correctness. I think the person writing it is trying to make a point about how they think 4e lost some essential aspect of D&D, but is trying to find the least inflammatory language possible to do it. Unfortunately, the result is that each new phrase people pick to criticize 4e sets off the same arguments, meaning that it becomes charged. Eventually, any time it's used, it will carry the connotation of edition warring. I try to avoid these kinds of catchphrases, which frankly is not easy given how many of them there are. However, I think most people who use them simply have not read the thousands of pages of prior threads and are genuinely attempting to articulate a critical point. FWIW I think it's bizarrely inaccurate. If I were to see the phrase "tactical skirmish game" outside of this context, I would think of a highly realistic simulation involving intricate, in-world tactical choices (i.e. "that guy has heavy armor, we need to use a greataxe against him" is a tactical choice, "that guy looks powerful, I'll decide that my one opportunity per day to hit him hard occurs now" is not). D&D is not a tactical skirmish game, being not particularly realistic, nor focused on minutia like facing and hit locations, and 4e is even less tactical than the other editions. *** Wonder what would happen if the same poll were ran for phrases like "15 minute adventuring day" or "quadratic wizards/linear warriors", which I think are used to be inflammatory at least as often as the above but don't seem to be called out as such. *** Ah, so it's *public*, but only for a select few. Say what? [/QUOTE]
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