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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 8430734" data-attributes="member: 2209">5e splits Greater and Lesser Gods along the lines of those who are greater principles who might manifest avatars but killing the avatars does not affect the greater god and lesser gods who are embodied in the planes somewhere and could be encountered by the PCs as the gods themselves and not a mere manifestation (Lolth is specifically mentioned as an example). DMG page 11 is where divine rank and the greater versus lesser god distinction is made. The listing of gods in the PH appendix and the 4e Dawn War pantheon in the DMG do not list divine ranks or distinguish between greater and lesser gods though.I think the fact that the 4e gods (and primordials and demon lords) had stats and were embodied in specific places in the 4e cosmology meant they would be lesser gods in 5e terms, similar to 1e deities and not 5e greater god disembodied abstractions who could not be encountered outside of manifestations, the way 2e deities were presented with stats only for avatars. So 4e Lolth of the small pantheon would be a lesser 5e god because she was actually an NPC in the setting and cosmology.</blockquote>