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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 7670899" data-attributes="member: 6787650">I agree at least with the point in bold, and I've been saying something very much like it for ten pages or so. But you're kind of changing the subject here. You've asserted that the fiend must share my axiological values as a DM. Your post quoted here seems to concede the point ("I can see why it doesn't make a lot of sense for him to judge himself as evil"). And yes, I agree that he probably also wouldn't judge his reasons as petty, although it wouldn't matter if he did because it still wouldn't be a big deal because benevolence to nobodies isn't axiologically important to him. ("Yeah, I probably shouldn't have lost my temper and tortured that lady for losing my laundry. Oh well, we all have off days.")If you've conceded that point, then we're done with this sub-thread, which started in post #184 with the question,If your revised answer to that question is, "No," then we're done. Or at least I am--the potential axiological divergence between DM/universe and (N)PC has been my point all along.</blockquote>