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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 7670930" data-attributes="member: 2067">I might actually argue that all phenomena can only be subjectively interpreted - the act of interpreting is itself a process of subjective judgement. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_mathematics#Fictionalism" target="_blank">Whether or not 2+2=4 is real or some sort of fiction or useful language or other subjective thing is actually open to some debate</a>, but that's not the most grounded conversation for our purposes here. In PS, at least, that there is some force called "good" that exists depends on observing minds believing that to be the case, and so cannot be said to exist without an observer (an observer assigns, say, altruism to this "good" force, and so "good" becomes linked to altruism). If no one believed in this force, "good," then it would not exist (that's the way the fictional universe works!). But it does not depend on any one particular mind's belief -  you cannot personally just say that "good is an illusion" and have it be true any more than you can say "Bruce Wayne is the Joker" and have it be true, despite the fact that neither PS-style "good" or "Bruce Wayne" have any objective existence.</blockquote>