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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fralex" data-source="post: 7671065" data-attributes="member: 6785902">And that just brings me back to my confusion over what LN actually means. If it creates misery, then in Mechanus LN is the "chump" alignment, for people who just do what they're told even if it makes them unhappy and doesn't appear to make anyone else happy except their leader. That means Primus is really LE for not caring that His subjects are miserable, and it really speaks volumes that these subjects are essentially robots, the perfect "chumps" who will always do what they're told and their creators don't need to feel sorry for their slavery because they're not really alive. So by this logic you can make LN people be slaves who have given up any hope that their lives could be better and have just accepted their place in the world, or weirdly neurotic types who are obsessed with rules and tradition for their own sake. But you can't have any LN leaders, people who are champions of their alignments, because anyone who tries to make people adopt the alignment of slaves, robots, and (worst of all??) bureaucrats who isn't doing it in service to some greater power is just taking advantage of them, or at the very least taking away their freedom in exchange for nothing, and that would make them lawful evil, not neutral. And I guess maybe you can have people like that, insisting everyone is just the servant of someone higher up, but most of the people I can think of insisting on that are really just doing it to trick others into obeying them for no reason.I... I guess I'm saying that the Lawful Neutral alignment is a pyramid scheme created by Lawful Evil creatures?</blockquote>

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