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Message: <blockquote data-quote="seasong" data-source="post: 954703" data-attributes="member: 5137">Mythusmage: An alternate armor schema:Design Style:Flexible: Tunic & leggings, with cloth-like flexibility. The design has no impact on mobility, although the weight (and weight distribution) might cause penalties.Semi-Rigid: The same as flexible armor, but with mini-plates, scales or other stiffening agents spread over the exterior surface to improve chances of deflection. The clothing is a bit stiffer due to their presence, but protection is marginally better.Alternately, semi-rigid can be made with a few points of rigidity help blunt impact and transmit the force of key-point blows around the body. A somewhat stiff material hangs between the rigid points. The design has some impact on mobility due to the need for rigidity, but does not unduly restrict the individual.Framework/Rigid: Plate armors are designed for maximum defense at the expense of mobility. A heavy internal structure, buttressing points, and rigid surfaces maximize the impact that can be absorbed and transmitted around the body.Cloth-like Materials:Copper mailBronze mailIron mailSteel mailDwarven steel mailWood link mailIronwood link mailDarkwood link mailAdamantine mailStuffed, quilted clothCow leatherBazilisk leatherYoung dragon leatherSemi-rigid Cloth Materials:Copper scaleBronze scaleIron scaleSteel scaleDwarven steel scaleWood scaleIronwood scaleDarkwood scaleAdamantine scaleCopper bandingBronze bandingIron bandingSteel bandingDwarven steel bandingWood bandingIronwood bandingDarkwood bandingAdamantine bandingBoiled leather bandingRigid Materials:Copper plateBronze plateIron plateSteel plateDwarven steel plateWood plateIronwood plateDarkwood plateAdamantine plateBoiled leather plateLarge dragon scalesWeight:To calculate weight, each style of armor has a base weight, and each material has a base multiplier. Multiply the base weight by the base multiplier. This is your "starting weight", which will give you an DR 1 for that armor. To get higher DR, multiply the starting weight by the final DR you want. Thus, if steel mail flexible armor has a base weight of 15 lbs and you want DR 4, it would weigh 60 lbs. To restate: DR x BASE WEIGHT x BASE MULTIPLIERCost:Each material has a material cost (by weight), and each style of armor has a base multiplier (for labor). WEIGHT x BASE COST x STYLE MULTIPLIERAC:Flexible gives a +1 base; semi-rigid (either one) gives a +2 base; rigid gives a +3 base. Normal cloth gives a -1; most materials give a +0; and metals and woods (hard materials) give a +1. Finally, add +1 per 4 points of DR.Etc.Is this what you are looking for? (Only with base weights and costs, and base multipliers added in)If it is, feel free to use the above, fill in whatever you feel is realistic for the materials, and run with it. It's a modification of my GURPS rules for similar stuff, but I'm not really attached to it.This is not quite correct. I have three types of armor (one type is a halfway step between flex and rigid), and four weights for each. In addition, and I can only imagine that you didn't read this far, you can modify the basic armors by the material used. There are EIGHT basic armors, and you can make special materials for any of them... and those special materials can be better or worse, depending on the needs of your setting.That is because the roleplaying part is not handled by the system, but by the imagination. If I sketch out some armor for Country B, I find it easier to eyeball it as belonging in the "light rigid" classification than to go through a complicated build process to determine its stats. If I want Country B to have poor steel and rotten design, I can just lower the stats and up the weight a bit - it takes me half a second, and provides an excellent way to make the country unique. Some design guidelines and examples might be nice (and I'm working on those), but a gearhead system for designing armor just wastes time I could have spent working on a plot.I don't even understand what you mean by this, so I suppose that's for the best.</blockquote>

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