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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9012197" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Same.</p><p></p><p>DS9 was absolute magic, balancing the utopian vision and ideals of TNG with a much stronger focus on the humanity of its characters and the location-based format together with the strong continuity and early use of arcs on an episodic show just worked incredibly well in the Trek universe - not something I think many people would have predicted.</p><p></p><p>As someone who was never nostalgic for TOS (I barely saw it before TNG, I think I saw a couple of episodes and thought it was like, worse than Doctor Who so ignored it until TNG - I did watch and enjoy it later, but not until after most/all of TNG), I think SNW is just incredible. It's literally unheard-of for a Trek season to hit it out of the park in S1, but SNW absolutely has. The cast is particularly good - just charismatic actors all round - very much like TOS/DS9 in that regard (TNG's actors took longer to grow on you, and most of Disco, VOY and ENT's never did, imho).</p><p></p><p>The first season is pretty close to unwatchable, at least the first few episodes. I only stuck with it because it was the pandemic and I was playing WoW or something at the same time as half-watching on another screen. By the end of S3 it's better than almost any Star Trek. Which is just a bizarre and insane-seeming thing to say. I just wish they didn't keep doing the weird very 20th (not 21st) century pop-culture refs and bad jokes though. They cut them down massively by S3 though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9012197, member: 18"] Same. DS9 was absolute magic, balancing the utopian vision and ideals of TNG with a much stronger focus on the humanity of its characters and the location-based format together with the strong continuity and early use of arcs on an episodic show just worked incredibly well in the Trek universe - not something I think many people would have predicted. As someone who was never nostalgic for TOS (I barely saw it before TNG, I think I saw a couple of episodes and thought it was like, worse than Doctor Who so ignored it until TNG - I did watch and enjoy it later, but not until after most/all of TNG), I think SNW is just incredible. It's literally unheard-of for a Trek season to hit it out of the park in S1, but SNW absolutely has. The cast is particularly good - just charismatic actors all round - very much like TOS/DS9 in that regard (TNG's actors took longer to grow on you, and most of Disco, VOY and ENT's never did, imho). The first season is pretty close to unwatchable, at least the first few episodes. I only stuck with it because it was the pandemic and I was playing WoW or something at the same time as half-watching on another screen. By the end of S3 it's better than almost any Star Trek. Which is just a bizarre and insane-seeming thing to say. I just wish they didn't keep doing the weird very 20th (not 21st) century pop-culture refs and bad jokes though. They cut them down massively by S3 though. [/QUOTE]
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