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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9012959" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>nuBSG was pretty ballsy.</p><p></p><p>No accident that Ronald D. Moore was involved with both DS9 and nuBSG. I just wish he hadn't got distracted by <s>Pervlander</s> Outlander for years, but hey, For All Mankind is absolutely off-the-hook in a similar way to DS9/nuBSG (apart from That Plotline lol wth man - I blame overexposure to Outlander).</p><p></p><p>Not only did it have the humans as terror-bombing resistance being clearly the sympathetic good guys, it did it at a time when that was literally happening in Iraq, at a time when politicians were saying stuff like "You're either with us, or against us", and generally anyone who wasn't gung-ho for invading Iraq was being demeaned/dismissed in the media. Hell in the UK we had massive protests against the war, and the media just wouldn't cover them in any real way. Very revealing about who the media actually serves (not the truth nor the public, that's for sure). We've finally got to the point where it's fashionable to admit that the Iraq war was, in fact, a massive and unwarranted screw-up - hence a bunch of recent columns etc. from people who were gung-ho for the war vaguely musing that'd it'd have been better if we didn't do it - without apologising of course.</p><p></p><p>And there was ol' nuBSG saying "Yo blowing up your oppressor is pretty understandable/relatable" on TV back in the day.</p><p></p><p>Ironically today I think a show being that direct would have got called out a lot more, because back then you could fly under the radar as most politicians/pundits were either so media illiterate they didn't get the analogy, or they felt it was beneath them to acknowledge it when it was a "silly" SF show, not The West Wing or something (screw The West Wing btw, most pompous, delusional and self-important TV show ever made). Or they were employed in ways that didn't rely on "clicks" or whatever. In the era of the culture wars and more importantly countless pundits relying entirely on clicks/views/likes/subscribes as their metric to get paid, we'd have seen absolute desperation to paint nuBSG as "traitorous" and demands that we oppose NBC. Kid Rock would probably have made an Instagram video of him* "shooting" S1 nuBSG DVDs.</p><p></p><p>* = As with the beer he'd actually clearly be missing and someone off-screen was making the actual shots.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9012959, member: 18"] nuBSG was pretty ballsy. No accident that Ronald D. Moore was involved with both DS9 and nuBSG. I just wish he hadn't got distracted by [S]Pervlander[/S] Outlander for years, but hey, For All Mankind is absolutely off-the-hook in a similar way to DS9/nuBSG (apart from That Plotline lol wth man - I blame overexposure to Outlander). Not only did it have the humans as terror-bombing resistance being clearly the sympathetic good guys, it did it at a time when that was literally happening in Iraq, at a time when politicians were saying stuff like "You're either with us, or against us", and generally anyone who wasn't gung-ho for invading Iraq was being demeaned/dismissed in the media. Hell in the UK we had massive protests against the war, and the media just wouldn't cover them in any real way. Very revealing about who the media actually serves (not the truth nor the public, that's for sure). We've finally got to the point where it's fashionable to admit that the Iraq war was, in fact, a massive and unwarranted screw-up - hence a bunch of recent columns etc. from people who were gung-ho for the war vaguely musing that'd it'd have been better if we didn't do it - without apologising of course. And there was ol' nuBSG saying "Yo blowing up your oppressor is pretty understandable/relatable" on TV back in the day. Ironically today I think a show being that direct would have got called out a lot more, because back then you could fly under the radar as most politicians/pundits were either so media illiterate they didn't get the analogy, or they felt it was beneath them to acknowledge it when it was a "silly" SF show, not The West Wing or something (screw The West Wing btw, most pompous, delusional and self-important TV show ever made). Or they were employed in ways that didn't rely on "clicks" or whatever. In the era of the culture wars and more importantly countless pundits relying entirely on clicks/views/likes/subscribes as their metric to get paid, we'd have seen absolute desperation to paint nuBSG as "traitorous" and demands that we oppose NBC. Kid Rock would probably have made an Instagram video of him* "shooting" S1 nuBSG DVDs. * = As with the beer he'd actually clearly be missing and someone off-screen was making the actual shots. [/QUOTE]
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