There needs to be a 4th spell list.

[Pedantic]

Not to be that guy, but I really think LevelUp got this one right. I'd you're going to do spell lists, do a lot of small thematic ones and allow for overlap.

Then you can hand out access to "law" or "communication" spells in addition to class lists in archetypes.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Not to be that guy, but I really think LevelUp got this one right. I'd you're going to do spell lists, do a lot of small thematic ones and allow for overlap.

Then you can hand out access to "law" or "communication" spells in addition to class lists in archetypes.

I'll be that guy all day.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

1DD Ranger has a niche?

Primal spells.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Not to be that guy, but I really think LevelUp got this one right. I'd you're going to do spell lists, do a lot of small thematic ones and allow for overlap.

Then you can hand out access to "law" or "communication" spells in addition to class lists in archetypes.

I think the lists in LevelUp are a bit too much. And annoying, because you have to look over each single spell.
Really something I don't care about.

Rather use the 8 classic schools an be fine with it.

 

[Kobold Avenger]

The generalized spell lists are going to run into the Psion Problem which is different from the Artificer Problem which they're currently accounting for, as in what are they going to do about new spells if and when the Psion becomes a class. I think one way to fix the Psion Problem is to have a 4th spell list, and to make it the one that Bards use. It can be called "Psionic" or "Occult" or whatever, but it needs to be one for Bards to use, and then the main one for Psions later on when they become a class.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Primal spells.

Druids cast primal spells.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I also want a Martial spell list! Down with maneuvers, give me Final Fantasy Limit Breaks!

laugh all we want it might be the only way to get martial exploits into a game made by WotC

 

[Pedantic]

I think the lists in LevelUp are a bit too much. And annoying, because you have to look over each single spell.
Really something I don't care about.

In practice, WotC is in a better place to deal with this through online tools. If spell schools are primarily keywords, then you're just selecting the list of relevant spells for your class choices and getting a list of what you have at each level.

 

[Twiggly the Gnome]

The generalized spell lists are going to run into the Psion Problem which is different from the Artificer Problem which they're currently accounting for, as in what are they going to do about new spells if and when the Psion becomes a class.

Just don't have Psions as spellcasters. Problem solved!

 

[Micah Sweet]

In practice, WotC is in a better place to deal with this through online tools. If spell schools are primarily keywords, then you're just selecting the list of relevant spells for your class choices and getting a list of what you have at each level.

Level Up has online tools too.