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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 9467999" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>Apples and oranges.</p><p></p><p>Quickened spell changes the <em><strong>casting time</strong></em> of the spell for one casting. </p><p></p><p>Using a scroll requires <em>casting the spell</em>. Each spell has its own casting time, which you use when you cast the spell. </p><p></p><p>By my reading, that also means that sorcs can use Quicken Spell on scrolls that they use. If you want to rule scrolls can all be used as a bonus action as a thief, that'd probably also mean that sorcs can't metamagic their scrolls. </p><p></p><p>I'd wager that in the DMG there'll be an abundance of magic items that specify you take the Magic action to do something with them (what in 2014 might've been called "activating an item"). Though, I'd also wager that any magic item that involves duplicating a spell would use the same action as that spell. But maybe the 2024 DMG will specify that the action you use to draw something out of a <em>bag of tricks </em>is a Magic action, or that throwing a bead from a <em>bead of force </em>is a Magic action, or that the action you use to discern the distance and direction to a dragon with your <em>dragon scale mail</em> is a Magic action. </p><p></p><p>By my reading, taking the "Magic" action involves using magic. Casting a spell is one way to use magic, and scrolls let you cast spells. Using magic items is another way to use magic, and certain magic items let you use the Magic action. These are distinct uses of the Magic action, though (in the same way that attacking with a bow and attacking with an axe are distinct uses of the Attack action)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 9467999, member: 2067"] Apples and oranges. Quickened spell changes the [I][B]casting time[/B][/I] of the spell for one casting. Using a scroll requires [I]casting the spell[/I]. Each spell has its own casting time, which you use when you cast the spell. By my reading, that also means that sorcs can use Quicken Spell on scrolls that they use. If you want to rule scrolls can all be used as a bonus action as a thief, that'd probably also mean that sorcs can't metamagic their scrolls. I'd wager that in the DMG there'll be an abundance of magic items that specify you take the Magic action to do something with them (what in 2014 might've been called "activating an item"). Though, I'd also wager that any magic item that involves duplicating a spell would use the same action as that spell. But maybe the 2024 DMG will specify that the action you use to draw something out of a [I]bag of tricks [/I]is a Magic action, or that throwing a bead from a [I]bead of force [/I]is a Magic action, or that the action you use to discern the distance and direction to a dragon with your [I]dragon scale mail[/I] is a Magic action. By my reading, taking the "Magic" action involves using magic. Casting a spell is one way to use magic, and scrolls let you cast spells. Using magic items is another way to use magic, and certain magic items let you use the Magic action. These are distinct uses of the Magic action, though (in the same way that attacking with a bow and attacking with an axe are distinct uses of the Attack action) [/QUOTE]
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