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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9470188" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>I agree and scrolls inscribed with a spell of one action casting time are #3 above. </p><p></p><p>As you say above Fast Hands <em>"clearly applies to (3)" </em></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree you can't separate these and this is what I based my conclusion on, you don't separate the reading and the casting. </p><p></p><p>You can not separate these events then the reading is part of the action taken for the casting casting and if the reading is part of the action taken for the casting then very clearly these scrolls fall under #3 above (you use a magic item that requires a magic action to be activated)</p><p></p><p>The scroll is a magic item. If reading and casting the particular spell on the scroll requires an action to cast then it is also an item that requires a magic action to be activated.</p><p></p><p>The magic action does not apply to all scrolls and Fast Hands would not work on a scroll with a spell that has a casting time of a bonus action, reaction or something else because those scrolls are not <em>"a magic item that requires a magic action to be activated" </em>and , but a spell scroll with a spell scribed that takes an action to cast is #3 on your list above.</p><p></p><p>Finally if we agree that a scroll is a magic item and we agree it takes an action to read it and cast the spell (assumign a spell with a 1 action casting time). Then what kind of action is this? If it is not a magic item activated with the Magic Action then it is still a magic item activated with an action, so which action is being used?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9470188, member: 7030563"] I agree and scrolls inscribed with a spell of one action casting time are #3 above. As you say above Fast Hands [I]"clearly applies to (3)" [/I] I agree you can't separate these and this is what I based my conclusion on, you don't separate the reading and the casting. You can not separate these events then the reading is part of the action taken for the casting casting and if the reading is part of the action taken for the casting then very clearly these scrolls fall under #3 above (you use a magic item that requires a magic action to be activated) The scroll is a magic item. If reading and casting the particular spell on the scroll requires an action to cast then it is also an item that requires a magic action to be activated. The magic action does not apply to all scrolls and Fast Hands would not work on a scroll with a spell that has a casting time of a bonus action, reaction or something else because those scrolls are not [I]"a magic item that requires a magic action to be activated" [/I]and , but a spell scroll with a spell scribed that takes an action to cast is #3 on your list above. Finally if we agree that a scroll is a magic item and we agree it takes an action to read it and cast the spell (assumign a spell with a 1 action casting time). Then what kind of action is this? If it is not a magic item activated with the Magic Action then it is still a magic item activated with an action, so which action is being used? [/QUOTE]
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