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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 9474990" data-attributes="member: 6801845"><p>Nowhere does it say that you are activating the scroll. You're adding that word in. What the rules stated</p><h4><p style="margin-left: 20px">Spell Scroll <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/magic-items/8960642-spell-scroll-cantrip" target="_blank">(Cantrip, 30 GP</a> <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/magic-items/8960643-spell-scroll-level-1" target="_blank">Level 1, 50 GP)</a></p> </h4> <p style="margin-left: 20px">A <em>Spell Scroll</em> (Cantrip) or <em>Spell Scroll</em> (Level 1) is a magic item that bears the words of a cantrip or level 1 spell, respectively, determined by the scroll’s creator. If the spell is on your class’s spell list, you can read the scroll and cast the spell using its normal casting time and without providing any Material components.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p>and </p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong><em>Use an Object.</em></strong> Take the <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/free-rules/rules-glossary#UtilizeAction" target="_blank">Utilize</a> action, or take the <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/free-rules/rules-glossary#MagicAction" target="_blank">Magic</a> action to use a magic item that requires that action.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p>The important thing about spell scrolls is that they specifically state "you can read the scroll and <strong>cast the spell </strong>using its normal casting time" (bold added). You are still casting a spell. You are not "activating" the scroll. I think of scrolls as being a way to pay the cost of casting the spell ahead of time. Preparing the spell, the possible material component, the spell slot, all of that is contained within the magical symbols on the scroll. Reading the the words of the spell allows you to cast it without any of that.</p><p></p><p>You are not taking a magic action to use a magic item, you are casting a spell using it's normal casting time. If you were a sorcerer, you could use Quickened Spell to change the casting time to a bonus action. The real exploit with allowing a fast hands to work with scrolls 3 rogue levels and then multiclass into wizard. Cast whatever spell you like off a scroll that you previously scribed which normally takes an action. Then ready a spell to cast another spell on the start of the next creature's turn. </p><p></p><p>At least that's how I will rule when I DM. Feel free to rule differently.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 9474990, member: 6801845"] Nowhere does it say that you are activating the scroll. You're adding that word in. What the rules stated [HEADING=3][INDENT]Spell Scroll [URL='https://www.dndbeyond.com/magic-items/8960642-spell-scroll-cantrip'](Cantrip, 30 GP[/URL] [URL='https://www.dndbeyond.com/magic-items/8960643-spell-scroll-level-1']Level 1, 50 GP)[/URL][/INDENT][/HEADING] [INDENT]A [I]Spell Scroll[/I] (Cantrip) or [I]Spell Scroll[/I] (Level 1) is a magic item that bears the words of a cantrip or level 1 spell, respectively, determined by the scroll’s creator. If the spell is on your class’s spell list, you can read the scroll and cast the spell using its normal casting time and without providing any Material components.[/INDENT] [INDENT][/INDENT] and [INDENT][B][I]Use an Object.[/I][/B] Take the [URL='https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/free-rules/rules-glossary#UtilizeAction']Utilize[/URL] action, or take the [URL='https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/free-rules/rules-glossary#MagicAction']Magic[/URL] action to use a magic item that requires that action.[/INDENT] [INDENT][/INDENT] The important thing about spell scrolls is that they specifically state "you can read the scroll and [B]cast the spell [/B]using its normal casting time" (bold added). You are still casting a spell. You are not "activating" the scroll. I think of scrolls as being a way to pay the cost of casting the spell ahead of time. Preparing the spell, the possible material component, the spell slot, all of that is contained within the magical symbols on the scroll. Reading the the words of the spell allows you to cast it without any of that. You are not taking a magic action to use a magic item, you are casting a spell using it's normal casting time. If you were a sorcerer, you could use Quickened Spell to change the casting time to a bonus action. The real exploit with allowing a fast hands to work with scrolls 3 rogue levels and then multiclass into wizard. Cast whatever spell you like off a scroll that you previously scribed which normally takes an action. Then ready a spell to cast another spell on the start of the next creature's turn. At least that's how I will rule when I DM. Feel free to rule differently. [/QUOTE]
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