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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9489496" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>Thrown Weapon Fighting. It is usually 4d6+7 if he has to use/move Hunter's Mark and up to 6d6+10 if he doesn't</p><p></p><p>So yeah a lot more than this 3rd level thief and without the need for scrolls every turn, using his reaction or qualifying for sneak attack.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If he gets sneak attack.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind, Rogues can usually get sneak attack, but a part of that is Cunning Action and Steady Aim which you can't use if you are using your bonus. There will be a significant number of times you won't be able to sneak attack with both your attacks, while for the Ranger that damage is very reliable ... and if we are assuming unlimited scrolls then the Ranger has unlimited Hunter's Mark.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Level 5 is a 4 Ranger/1 Monk. I have a lot of options:</p><p></p><p>Thrown weapons while moving/casting HM: 4d6+7</p><p>Truestrike with Musket and Hunter's Mark: 1d12+2d6+4</p><p>3 Melee Attacks with Hunter's Mark already going: 6d6+6</p><p>2 Thrown Weapons and then an unarmed strike with Hunter's Mark: 6d6+10</p><p>Unarmed Strike and melee Truestrike without Hunters Mark: 1d8+2d6+7</p><p>Unarmed Strike and Green Flame Blade without Hunter's Mark: 3d8+1d6+10 divided between two targets</p><p></p><p>And I don't need any special sneak attack conditions to do any of that!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>At level 6 (5 Ranger/1 Monk) it is 6d6+12 if I have to put up or move Hunter's Mark or up to 8d6+15 if I don't.</p><p></p><p>(Hand Axe 1d6+5+1d6 HM, Hand Axe 1d6+5+1d6 HM, Dagger 1d6+2+1d6 HM, unarmed Strike 1d6+3+1d6HM)</p><p></p><p>And that is without using my reaction or needing sneak attack set up AND I will be pushing Wisdom, this would be even higher if I pushed dex.</p><p></p><p>Oh and at this point I also have Monk-Spike Growth as an option a couple times a day.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not really OP.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9489496, member: 7030563"] Thrown Weapon Fighting. It is usually 4d6+7 if he has to use/move Hunter's Mark and up to 6d6+10 if he doesn't So yeah a lot more than this 3rd level thief and without the need for scrolls every turn, using his reaction or qualifying for sneak attack. If he gets sneak attack. Keep in mind, Rogues can usually get sneak attack, but a part of that is Cunning Action and Steady Aim which you can't use if you are using your bonus. There will be a significant number of times you won't be able to sneak attack with both your attacks, while for the Ranger that damage is very reliable ... and if we are assuming unlimited scrolls then the Ranger has unlimited Hunter's Mark. Level 5 is a 4 Ranger/1 Monk. I have a lot of options: Thrown weapons while moving/casting HM: 4d6+7 Truestrike with Musket and Hunter's Mark: 1d12+2d6+4 3 Melee Attacks with Hunter's Mark already going: 6d6+6 2 Thrown Weapons and then an unarmed strike with Hunter's Mark: 6d6+10 Unarmed Strike and melee Truestrike without Hunters Mark: 1d8+2d6+7 Unarmed Strike and Green Flame Blade without Hunter's Mark: 3d8+1d6+10 divided between two targets And I don't need any special sneak attack conditions to do any of that! At level 6 (5 Ranger/1 Monk) it is 6d6+12 if I have to put up or move Hunter's Mark or up to 8d6+15 if I don't. (Hand Axe 1d6+5+1d6 HM, Hand Axe 1d6+5+1d6 HM, Dagger 1d6+2+1d6 HM, unarmed Strike 1d6+3+1d6HM) And that is without using my reaction or needing sneak attack set up AND I will be pushing Wisdom, this would be even higher if I pushed dex. Oh and at this point I also have Monk-Spike Growth as an option a couple times a day. Not really OP. [/QUOTE]
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