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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5478387" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Ok, so in a low level discussion about Thieves vs. Rangers, you pull in TWO Paragon level feats (Called Shot and Prime Quarry) to illustrate that the extremely subpar and mostly worthless Prime Shot can indeed be worthwhile by level 13.</p><p></p><p>Got it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>An effective archer ranger at first level like the discussion here?</p><p></p><p>Or some Paragon level archer ranger after you ton him and his allies up with a boatload of features?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Prime Shot at heroic levels adds less than 1 to DPR with Twin Strike and even less for most other Ranger attack powers and is often not worth the risk of putting the Ranger out in front considering that in most scenarios, the Ranger can reach most of the foes with his attacks from the safety of cover and/or extreme range.</p><p></p><p>Prime Shot can be improved upon with feats like Cursed Shot or Primed Shot at heroic, but it needs some type of boost to be worthwhile and then at real low level, the Ranger is lowering DPR by not taking one feat (like Weapon Proficiency Greatbow or Expertise which are used for every attack) to slightly raise DPR by taking a different (at real low level) subpar feat (like Cursed Shot which is situational).</p><p></p><p>Prime Shot is not even a speedbump in a comparison discussion of Thieves vs. ranged Rangers at low heroic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 5478387, member: 2011"] Ok, so in a low level discussion about Thieves vs. Rangers, you pull in TWO Paragon level feats (Called Shot and Prime Quarry) to illustrate that the extremely subpar and mostly worthless Prime Shot can indeed be worthwhile by level 13. Got it. An effective archer ranger at first level like the discussion here? Or some Paragon level archer ranger after you ton him and his allies up with a boatload of features? Prime Shot at heroic levels adds less than 1 to DPR with Twin Strike and even less for most other Ranger attack powers and is often not worth the risk of putting the Ranger out in front considering that in most scenarios, the Ranger can reach most of the foes with his attacks from the safety of cover and/or extreme range. Prime Shot can be improved upon with feats like Cursed Shot or Primed Shot at heroic, but it needs some type of boost to be worthwhile and then at real low level, the Ranger is lowering DPR by not taking one feat (like Weapon Proficiency Greatbow or Expertise which are used for every attack) to slightly raise DPR by taking a different (at real low level) subpar feat (like Cursed Shot which is situational). Prime Shot is not even a speedbump in a comparison discussion of Thieves vs. ranged Rangers at low heroic. [/QUOTE]
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