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<blockquote data-quote="Obly99" data-source="post: 8790502" data-attributes="member: 7035194"><p>At least he can't even make toast and coffee, he can't do everything.</p><p></p><p>A lot of his more problematic abilities are stuck behind the fact that all it takes is bright light (a simple 3rd level daylight spell) to turn them off.</p><p></p><p>No no no, one of the reasons I post them on the forum is to have your opinions on whether they are broken / problematic / annoying or not.</p><p></p><p>Ok a level 5th entropy</p><p></p><p>Entropy Troll CR 15</p><p></p><p>Beyond Alignment (NE) Large outsider (elemental, entropy, evil, extraplanar, giant)</p><p></p><p><strong>Init</strong> +2; <strong>Senses</strong> darkvision 60 ft., low-light vision, scent, see in darkness, true seeing; Perception +8</p><p></p><p>DEFENSE</p><p></p><p><strong>AC</strong> 16, touch 11, flat-footed 14; (+2 Dex, +5 natural, –1 size)</p><p></p><p><strong>hp</strong> 63 (6d8+36); regeneration 5 (acid or fire), dark regeneration 6</p><p></p><p><strong>Defensive Abilities</strong> anathema to reality, entropic master, freedom of movement, negate aroma, negative energy affinity; <strong>DR</strong> 3/–; <strong>Immune</strong> ability damage and drain, blindness, charm, compulsion, death effects, energy drain, fear, mind-affecting, nausea, permanent damage, petrification, and unwilling polymorph effects, elemental traits;</p><p></p><p><strong>Fort</strong> +11, <strong>Ref </strong>+4, <strong>Will</strong> +3</p><p></p><p>OFFENSE</p><p></p><p><strong>Speed</strong> fly 30 ft. (perfect)</p><p></p><p><strong>Melee</strong> bite +8 touch (1d8+5 permanent damage), 2 claws +8 touch (1d6+5 permanent damage)</p><p></p><p><strong>Space</strong> 10 ft.; <strong>Reach</strong> 10 ft.</p><p></p><p><strong>Special Attacks</strong> death gaze (30 ft., DC 11, 30 permanent damage), entropic touch (DC 11, 12d6), rend (2 claws, 1d6+7 permanent damage), third death (10 ft., DC 13), void gaze (15 ft., DC 11, fascinate 2d6 rounds)</p><p></p><p>STATISTICS</p><p></p><p><strong>Str</strong> 21, <strong>Dex</strong> 14, <strong>Con</strong> 23, <strong>Int</strong> 6, <strong>Wis</strong> 9, <strong>Cha</strong> 6</p><p></p><p><strong>Base Atk </strong>+4; <strong>CMB</strong> +10; <strong>CMD</strong> 22</p><p></p><p><strong>Feats</strong> Intimidating Prowess, Iron Will, Skill Focus (Perception)</p><p></p><p><strong>Skills</strong> Intimidate +9, Perception +8</p><p></p><p><strong>Languages</strong> Giant</p><p></p><p><strong>SQ</strong> beyond mortal care, entropic mastery, lasting death, undead nature</p><p></p><p>A party of level 10, not even of level 15, obliterate this thing. AC 16, hp 63, +8 to hit, the DC of its Abilities is 11/13. One reason I used the troll is that it has Cha 6 so its DCs are low. As strong as the template is, when I created it, I had the feeling that it was a strong template yes, but a lot depended on the creature it was applied to, therefore it is the master's job to be careful what he applies it to. The entropic troll, with its abilities and DC, it's not a CR 15, maybe it's a CR 9-10 except that it does permanent damage which is difficult / impossible to heal at low levels.</p><p></p><p>Quoting Upper_Krust</p><p>(<a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/immortals-handbook-epic-bestiary-epic-monster-discussion.172776/post-3865828" target="_blank">Immortals Handbook - Epic Bestiary (Epic Monster Discussion)</a>)</p><p>"EarthSeraphEdna: I just realized that the Small Unelemental is a CR 10 creature that has 2 melee touch attacks that each deal 2d8+3 (average 12) PERMANENT damage. Don't you think that's a bit unfair for a party of four ECL 10 characters who will not likely have Limited Wish, let alone Wish?</p><p></p><p>U_K: Nope, chances are they will beat it fairly easily but take some permanent damage, when they eventually level up enough they can restore the damage."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Obly99, post: 8790502, member: 7035194"] At least he can't even make toast and coffee, he can't do everything. A lot of his more problematic abilities are stuck behind the fact that all it takes is bright light (a simple 3rd level daylight spell) to turn them off. No no no, one of the reasons I post them on the forum is to have your opinions on whether they are broken / problematic / annoying or not. Ok a level 5th entropy Entropy Troll CR 15 Beyond Alignment (NE) Large outsider (elemental, entropy, evil, extraplanar, giant) [B]Init[/B] +2; [B]Senses[/B] darkvision 60 ft., low-light vision, scent, see in darkness, true seeing; Perception +8 DEFENSE [B]AC[/B] 16, touch 11, flat-footed 14; (+2 Dex, +5 natural, –1 size) [B]hp[/B] 63 (6d8+36); regeneration 5 (acid or fire), dark regeneration 6 [B]Defensive Abilities[/B] anathema to reality, entropic master, freedom of movement, negate aroma, negative energy affinity; [B]DR[/B] 3/–; [B]Immune[/B] ability damage and drain, blindness, charm, compulsion, death effects, energy drain, fear, mind-affecting, nausea, permanent damage, petrification, and unwilling polymorph effects, elemental traits; [B]Fort[/B] +11, [B]Ref [/B]+4, [B]Will[/B] +3 OFFENSE [B]Speed[/B] fly 30 ft. (perfect) [B]Melee[/B] bite +8 touch (1d8+5 permanent damage), 2 claws +8 touch (1d6+5 permanent damage) [B]Space[/B] 10 ft.; [B]Reach[/B] 10 ft. [B]Special Attacks[/B] death gaze (30 ft., DC 11, 30 permanent damage), entropic touch (DC 11, 12d6), rend (2 claws, 1d6+7 permanent damage), third death (10 ft., DC 13), void gaze (15 ft., DC 11, fascinate 2d6 rounds) STATISTICS [B]Str[/B] 21, [B]Dex[/B] 14, [B]Con[/B] 23, [B]Int[/B] 6, [B]Wis[/B] 9, [B]Cha[/B] 6 [B]Base Atk [/B]+4; [B]CMB[/B] +10; [B]CMD[/B] 22 [B]Feats[/B] Intimidating Prowess, Iron Will, Skill Focus (Perception) [B]Skills[/B] Intimidate +9, Perception +8 [B]Languages[/B] Giant [B]SQ[/B] beyond mortal care, entropic mastery, lasting death, undead nature A party of level 10, not even of level 15, obliterate this thing. AC 16, hp 63, +8 to hit, the DC of its Abilities is 11/13. One reason I used the troll is that it has Cha 6 so its DCs are low. As strong as the template is, when I created it, I had the feeling that it was a strong template yes, but a lot depended on the creature it was applied to, therefore it is the master's job to be careful what he applies it to. The entropic troll, with its abilities and DC, it's not a CR 15, maybe it's a CR 9-10 except that it does permanent damage which is difficult / impossible to heal at low levels. Quoting Upper_Krust ([URL="https://www.enworld.org/threads/immortals-handbook-epic-bestiary-epic-monster-discussion.172776/post-3865828"]Immortals Handbook - Epic Bestiary (Epic Monster Discussion)[/URL]) "EarthSeraphEdna: I just realized that the Small Unelemental is a CR 10 creature that has 2 melee touch attacks that each deal 2d8+3 (average 12) PERMANENT damage. Don't you think that's a bit unfair for a party of four ECL 10 characters who will not likely have Limited Wish, let alone Wish? U_K: Nope, chances are they will beat it fairly easily but take some permanent damage, when they eventually level up enough they can restore the damage." [/QUOTE]
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