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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9275981" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>First off that build is <strong><u>AHEAD</u></strong> of EB/AB+Hex at both strength and dex attacks at most levels. It is not behind that baseline. </p><p></p><p>Second it uses RAW including race, subclass and feats to be <strong><u>ahead</u></strong> of a baseline Warlock starting with a poor 14 in both strength and dex.</p><p></p><p>The point is this - the claim that you can't be competent with poor rolls is just plain false. As I said several posts ago you can mitigate this and be competent with the right feat, subclass and race selections</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>With sharpshooter she can be ahead of a basic Warlock EB/AB at most levels. She also ignores cover which is going to boost damage significantly in play, aside from having a longer range.</p><p></p><p>Here is how it stacks up:</p><p></p><p><strong>1st level vs AC13: </strong></p><p>Warlock EB Hex (no EB) 16 Charisma: 6 DPR (max range 120 feet)</p><p>14 Strength Axes TWF: 7 DPR (max Range 20 feet)</p><p>14 Dex Sharsphooter Heavy Crossbow: 7 DPR (max range 400 feet and ignores cover)</p><p></p><p><strong>6th level vs AC15:</strong></p><p>Warlock EB/AB Hex 18 Charisma: 18 DPR</p><p>16 Strength Axes, TWF, Hunters Mark: 19 DPR</p><p>14 Dex Longbow, Sharpshooter, Hunters Mark: 13 DPR</p><p></p><p><strong>9th level vs AC 16:</strong></p><p>Warlock AB/EB Hex 20 Charisma: 22 DPR</p><p>16 Strength War Magic, GWF, HM, Maul: 25 DPR (does not include secondary cantrip damage)</p><p>16 Dex Longbow sharpshooter HM: 16 DPR </p><p></p><p><strong>14th level vs AC 18:</strong></p><p>Warlock EB/AB Hex 20 Charisma: 29 DPR</p><p>16 Strength PAM+HM: 26 DPR</p><p>18 Dex, Longbow, Archery, Sharpshooter, HM: 31 DPR</p><p></p><p><strong>18th level AC19</strong></p><p>Warlock EB/AB Hex 20 Charisma: 29 DPR</p><p>18 Strength PAM+HM: 31 DPR</p><p>18 Dex, Longbow, Archery, Sharpshooter, HM: 31 DPR</p><p></p><p></p><p>That is pretty darn close with the fighter on top a lot and that is without considering the effects of action surge, the PAM reaction attack and not considering canceling cover on ranged attacks. Considering these three things this character will outrun the baseline at <u>most</u> levels.</p><p></p><p>To add this character is trying to keep up in both strength and dexterity attacks and doing really well at it, concentrating on one, while starting with a 14 would outrun the baseline by a mile.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9275981, member: 7030563"] First off that build is [B][U]AHEAD[/U][/B] of EB/AB+Hex at both strength and dex attacks at most levels. It is not behind that baseline. Second it uses RAW including race, subclass and feats to be [B][U]ahead[/U][/B] of a baseline Warlock starting with a poor 14 in both strength and dex. The point is this - the claim that you can't be competent with poor rolls is just plain false. As I said several posts ago you can mitigate this and be competent with the right feat, subclass and race selections With sharpshooter she can be ahead of a basic Warlock EB/AB at most levels. She also ignores cover which is going to boost damage significantly in play, aside from having a longer range. Here is how it stacks up: [B]1st level vs AC13: [/B] Warlock EB Hex (no EB) 16 Charisma: 6 DPR (max range 120 feet) 14 Strength Axes TWF: 7 DPR (max Range 20 feet) 14 Dex Sharsphooter Heavy Crossbow: 7 DPR (max range 400 feet and ignores cover) [B]6th level vs AC15:[/B] Warlock EB/AB Hex 18 Charisma: 18 DPR 16 Strength Axes, TWF, Hunters Mark: 19 DPR 14 Dex Longbow, Sharpshooter, Hunters Mark: 13 DPR [B]9th level vs AC 16:[/B] Warlock AB/EB Hex 20 Charisma: 22 DPR 16 Strength War Magic, GWF, HM, Maul: 25 DPR (does not include secondary cantrip damage) 16 Dex Longbow sharpshooter HM: 16 DPR [B]14th level vs AC 18:[/B] Warlock EB/AB Hex 20 Charisma: 29 DPR 16 Strength PAM+HM: 26 DPR 18 Dex, Longbow, Archery, Sharpshooter, HM: 31 DPR [B]18th level AC19[/B] Warlock EB/AB Hex 20 Charisma: 29 DPR 18 Strength PAM+HM: 31 DPR 18 Dex, Longbow, Archery, Sharpshooter, HM: 31 DPR That is pretty darn close with the fighter on top a lot and that is without considering the effects of action surge, the PAM reaction attack and not considering canceling cover on ranged attacks. Considering these three things this character will outrun the baseline at [U]most[/U] levels. To add this character is trying to keep up in both strength and dexterity attacks and doing really well at it, concentrating on one, while starting with a 14 would outrun the baseline by a mile. [/QUOTE]
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