Mistwell
Crusty Old Meatwad
Speaking of 'moving targets'... now that I have 'done the work' that you requested to show there is no where near enough XP in Episode 7.... are you going to provide those "play reports" that indicate otherwise??
You mean the topic Umbran asked us to drop, that you keep bringing up after he already said walk away? That one? The one where I was talking to someone else about doing or not doing work, and not you? No, I am not. Obviously. Stop baiting.
Wait.... you are going to be concerned about 'cherry picking' when you want to use the very first TSR Module as your 'typical' example?
I am using the example raised by the other user who I was responding to when you jumped in. I didn't pick it at all, he did, so obviously it was not a cherry pick. I don't know why you keep acting like the conversation I had with brehobit was a conversation directed at you and what you had said, but it was not.
But even looking at *just* G1..... it *does* have more content then most of the HotDQ episodes. A lot more.
It really does not and I'd love to know what standard your using to come to that conclusion.
As for the $16.... you are *way* off base. You are trying to equate a cost based on a product for a *very* niche game using 1970's production, page layout, and printing capabilties and compare that to an established game using the latest tech. To produce a 10 page dungeon crawl using today's capabilties and market would be profitable closer to $5.
I used the MSRP of that module, plugged it into an inflation calculator, and came to that result. THAT was the basis we were discussing before you jumped in. I sure don't care that you think it's unfair, the other guy brought it up as an example of what types of modules can be added up to go into a single one of these, and that's therefore the basis I went from. You're free to raise other topics, but I sure don't have to respond to them.
1) To say the current APs have the same content as 16 older modules is ridiculous, it just doesn't hold up.
255 pages versus 10 pages. It holds up fine. Nothing ridiculous about it. $60 versus $16 for each of those 10 pages also holds up just fine. I fully understand those are not the things you value or want to talk about, but do you understand others disagree with what they value, and think it's not ridiculous at all?
The point remains that it's more cost effective for WOTC to produce larger adventures rather than smaller ones, and it's the same lesson Paizo seems to have learned over the years, and that's why both companies are focusing on higher page count, and higher cost, adventures than many smaller one-shot or short type adventures.
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