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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 2500969" data-attributes="member: 158">That's like saying all fighters use swords, or all clerics are pacifistic... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Bards conceptually can take many forms:*Perform does not require an instrument (singing or oration)*Bards can carry any simple weapon, from morningstars to clubs to spears. A Bard with a spear and darts or javelins is both effective in combat and can cut an atypical image for the bard.*If singing or using oration, a bard can fight and inspire at the same time.*Silent Image and Grease are some rather effective spells in combat and general utility.*If you pick CUre Light wounds, you're a backup healer for the Druid. What happens if the Druid gets knocked unconscious? CLW means there's a second healer to keep people on their feet, even if you're not the primary.The number of skill points they get is second to the rogue. It sounds like NO ONE in your party can talk their way out of a jam, so I'd build up Bluff and Diplomacy, at least to about 1/2 to 2/3 of the max you can put into it; your CHA will help the rest of the way.A Bard is not better than any other class, but it can still be fun and hold his own. Just look at ALL of the traits he gets, and think of other archetypes you can create with them -- don't get stuck on the "foppish dandies in their green tights singing minstrel tunes" image some people have of the class.</blockquote>

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