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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Novem5er" data-source="post: 3944052" data-attributes="member: 57859">Here's my problem with purchasing virtual minis, random or not...What if I stop paying for DDI?They've already said that they are working on a way for subscribers to access all the Dungeon/Dragon material that they had previously had a subscription for. For instance, you pay for 6 months of DDI, you have access to all the articles released during the time you paid.But that would be impossible with the Gaming Table and purchased V-minis.The Game Table itself is a service, not a product, so it's okay to not access it without a subscription. However, the V-minis would be a "product", purchased to add value to a service. I don't want to pay money for a product that I can no longer use if I cancel a service.See, MMO's like WoW, require TIME to gain additional abilities/powers/equipment.. not real world money. If a player quits the service, they are only out time-invested. It's no real loss because players now have "time" to do whatever else they want.With the Game Table and V-minis, if you quit, you are out real, hard-earned money. You do not get that money back. They only way to make use of that money is to pay the subscription. With real minis, even if I never play D&D with them, they are physical product with which I can do (or not do) anything I want. There is no additional expense to use the things I already paid for.Also, to compare D&D V-minis to V-magic-cards is unfair. Magic Online has no subscription fee!That being said, I would pay for V-minis under four conditions:1) Minis are non-random.2) Minis are dramatically cheaper than the plastic ones.3) We have unlimited "copies" of minis purchased.4) Rare minis are not priced by Scrye magazine.I'm not paying $20 for virtual beholder that I can no longer use/hand/look-at if I quit paying the $10-15 a month service fee.As an aside, using 2D monster tokens with 3D PC minis on a 3D battlefield is... anti-climatic to say the least. Just throw away the dynamic lighting, get rid of 3D PC minis, etc."Oooo... the eerie glow of this cave  really makes that flat drawing of a dragon very scary. My PC, which towers over said dragon, is really quite frightened." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

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