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<blockquote data-quote="Traycor" data-source="post: 3944358" data-attributes="member: 54613"><p>I <strong>highly</strong> disagree. And I can break it down too.</p><p>The magazine subscriptions were giving me articles that I paid for, except now they are virtual only, available on the website. But wait, I was getting articles for free on the website all the time already. Not only is this not an ADD in value, this is a <strong>LOSS</strong> in value because I was getting this for free before. Now I'll have to pay for it. (On top of that, printing is a huge chunk of magazine cost. Without printing, the monetary value of those magazines shrinks to a fraction)</p><p></p><p>Character sheet - Character Modeler - DM Tools - Game table w/limited tokens:</p><p>Any video game, or MMO that I buy or subscribe to comes with all of these things... only much MUCH <strong>MUCH</strong> more! Any video game would provide me with dozens and dozens of monsters, all fully animated. These minatures won't even have animation!</p><p></p><p>And the game table is FLAT! I mean, FLAT?!!! What video game have you ever paid for that didn't come with terrain and props and environments? I know that Wizards is comparing what they are offering with the PnP game, but that doesn't work. DDI is a digital product that they plan to charge monthly for.</p><p></p><p>(Hope I'm not coming off rude. I feel very strongly about this)</p><p></p><p><span style="color: DarkOrange">To make the DDI valuable as a subscription it needs vast improvement. </span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOrange">- All monsters in the MM available at launch!</span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOrange">- All models fully animated!</span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOrange">- Terrain! Evironments! Props!</span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOrange"></span></p><p><span style="color: DarkOrange">If you think that sounds crazy or like a pipe dream, go buy even an old video game for $5 at Walmart. No 3D game released in the last 10 years has come without these elements. How does Wizards plan to convince the average consumer that they are providing them with anything even remotely worth their monthly subscription???</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Traycor, post: 3944358, member: 54613"] I [B]highly[/B] disagree. And I can break it down too. The magazine subscriptions were giving me articles that I paid for, except now they are virtual only, available on the website. But wait, I was getting articles for free on the website all the time already. Not only is this not an ADD in value, this is a [B]LOSS[/B] in value because I was getting this for free before. Now I'll have to pay for it. (On top of that, printing is a huge chunk of magazine cost. Without printing, the monetary value of those magazines shrinks to a fraction) Character sheet - Character Modeler - DM Tools - Game table w/limited tokens: Any video game, or MMO that I buy or subscribe to comes with all of these things... only much MUCH [B]MUCH[/B] more! Any video game would provide me with dozens and dozens of monsters, all fully animated. These minatures won't even have animation! And the game table is FLAT! I mean, FLAT?!!! What video game have you ever paid for that didn't come with terrain and props and environments? I know that Wizards is comparing what they are offering with the PnP game, but that doesn't work. DDI is a digital product that they plan to charge monthly for. (Hope I'm not coming off rude. I feel very strongly about this) [COLOR=DarkOrange]To make the DDI valuable as a subscription it needs vast improvement. - All monsters in the MM available at launch! - All models fully animated! - Terrain! Evironments! Props! If you think that sounds crazy or like a pipe dream, go buy even an old video game for $5 at Walmart. No 3D game released in the last 10 years has come without these elements. How does Wizards plan to convince the average consumer that they are providing them with anything even remotely worth their monthly subscription???[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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