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<blockquote data-quote="Kobold Stew" data-source="post: 9353927" data-attributes="member: 23484">Agreed.And with Aasimar in play (as it were) the fan base was not going to accept the celestial-theamed beast-people that were the Ardlings. One celestial race, as a counterpoint to Tiefling, is fine. I happen not to like the Aasimar because flight feels gimmicky to me, but I know that's just a matter of taste.Had the Ardlings not been celestial (but tied more to the natural world with a primal cantrip or whatever) I think they would have been given a pass, possibly even incorporating Tabaxi.What we've seen in the playtest is really encouraging to me. They were revised in &quot;Clerics and Species&quot;, so that the previous 5e Goliaths were one strain of six. With five new options, I think they're just going to grow (though everyone's going to pick Hill Giant, right?).100% A Gnoll, or a jackal-/fox-/dog-/wolf-person race is a big omission. This have been covered with Ardlings. There's so much space to explore here, that they just haven't touched. It could overlap with the shifter, I guess. There's a lot of possibilites, and they've really pursued none of them.I like the implementation we currently have in 5e It hasn't caught on, for some of the reasons in the OP, I guess.yay for plantfolk.As has been said, either goblins or kobolds would be a great addition for mainstreaming. I know there is resistance to small races, but as has been pointed out, it's a fun part to play in a party -- something I chose even when it gave me -4 STR and sunlight sensitivity in 3.5. Choosing to start weak and to build out of that can be fun for those who want it. This is somehting where I tink the playing field does not need to start level, mechanically as long as it offers something unique or distinctive.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kobold Stew, post: 9353927, member: 23484"] Agreed. And with Aasimar in play (as it were) the fan base was not going to accept the celestial-theamed beast-people that were the Ardlings. One celestial race, as a counterpoint to Tiefling, is fine. I happen not to like the Aasimar because flight feels gimmicky to me, but I know that's just a matter of taste. Had the Ardlings not been celestial (but tied more to the natural world with a primal cantrip or whatever) I think they would have been given a pass, possibly even incorporating Tabaxi. What we've seen in the playtest is really encouraging to me. They were revised in "Clerics and Species", so that the previous 5e Goliaths were one strain of six. With five new options, I think they're just going to grow (though everyone's going to pick Hill Giant, right?). 100% A Gnoll, or a jackal-/fox-/dog-/wolf-person race is a big omission. This have been covered with Ardlings. There's so much space to explore here, that they just haven't touched. It could overlap with the shifter, I guess. There's a lot of possibilites, and they've really pursued none of them. I like the implementation we currently have in 5e It hasn't caught on, for some of the reasons in the OP, I guess. yay for plantfolk. As has been said, either goblins or kobolds would be a great addition for mainstreaming. I know there is resistance to small races, but as has been pointed out, it's a fun part to play in a party -- something I chose even when it gave me -4 STR and sunlight sensitivity in 3.5. Choosing to start weak and to build out of that can be fun for those who want it. This is somehting where I tink the playing field does not need to start level, mechanically as long as it offers something unique or distinctive. [/QUOTE]

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