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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 9591405" data-attributes="member: 6779196">Right, but the latter two of these don’t do anything if the opponent can see you, which the invisibility spell does not say it prevents, and the hide action doesn’t say it allows. So either the condition does make you impossible to see, in which case entering an enemy’s line of sight would not cause them to find you, or the condition does not make you impossible to see, in which case those two effects are just non-functional.No, I’m saying that since neither of the sources specify whether or not you can be seen while you have the condition, we must assume your level of visibility is determined by the condition itself. And in that case, one of the two sources of the condition doesn’t function as we intuitively expect it to. If the condition itself makes you impossible to see, Hide breaks. If it doesn’t, the spell breaks.</blockquote>