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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 9591418" data-attributes="member: 48965">So let me address these separately....HIDE: You cannot hide if an opponent can see you, so you are starting from a position of your opponent(s) not being able to see you... otherwise you cannot take the Hide action.&nbsp; As long as said opponents cannot see you you gain all of the effects of the Invisible condition... thus you should be taking advantage of terrain, avoiding being in direct line of sight and honestly using missile weapons near areas where you can easily position to hide again or from obscurement in order to maintain this.Spell: The invisibility spell gives you all of the advantages of the Invisible condition unless...1.&nbsp; The spell's duration ends2. The target makes an attack roll, deals damage,&nbsp; or casts a spell3.&nbsp; A specific counter to the spell is used.NOTE: These are the only ways, regardless of what the Invisible condition states that someone using the spell can loose the condition.As long as you have the Invisible condition you are concealed and thus you cannot be affected by any effect that requires it's target to be seen (including locating you, though smell, sound and other forms of perception might work).&nbsp; This right here is your transparency, always look in another direction or just don't notice him/her mystical&nbsp; invisibility...&nbsp; You can't be seen</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 9591418, member: 48965"] So let me address these separately.... HIDE: You cannot hide if an opponent can see you, so you are starting from a position of your opponent(s) not being able to see you... otherwise you cannot take the Hide action. As long as said opponents cannot see you you gain all of the effects of the Invisible condition... thus you should be taking advantage of terrain, avoiding being in direct line of sight and honestly using missile weapons near areas where you can easily position to hide again or from obscurement in order to maintain this. Spell: The invisibility spell gives you all of the advantages of the Invisible condition unless... 1. The spell's duration ends 2. The target makes an attack roll, deals damage, or casts a spell 3. A specific counter to the spell is used. NOTE: These are the only ways, regardless of what the Invisible condition states that someone using the spell can loose the condition. As long as you have the Invisible condition you are concealed and thus you cannot be affected by any effect that requires it's target to be seen (including locating you, though smell, sound and other forms of perception might work). This right here is your transparency, always look in another direction or just don't notice him/her mystical invisibility... You can't be seen [/QUOTE]

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