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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 9591428" data-attributes="member: 6779196">Great. But here’s the problem: it does not matter if the invisible condition from the spell ends or not if the condition doesn’t actually make you impossible to see without special senses. And if the condition does actually make you impossible to see, then there’s no need to stick to cover after you used it to gain the condition via the hide action.If that’s how you’re interpreting the invisible condition to work (which makes sense, since otherwise 2/3s of its effects don’t do anything), then you can get behind cover, take the hide action to gain the invisible condition, and then immediately leave cover without being found, since the condition would be preventing effects that require the target to see you (such as finding you).Ok, so are you saying that the Hide action does in fact prevent you from being seen while not covered or concealed at all, because all enemies are just looking in another direction?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 9591428, member: 6779196"] Great. But here’s the problem: it does not matter if the invisible condition from the spell ends or not if the condition doesn’t actually make you impossible to see without special senses. And if the condition does actually make you impossible to see, then there’s no need to stick to cover after you used it to gain the condition via the hide action. If that’s how you’re interpreting the invisible condition to work (which makes sense, since otherwise 2/3s of its effects don’t do anything), then you can get behind cover, take the hide action to gain the invisible condition, and then immediately leave cover without being found, since the condition would be preventing effects that require the target to see you (such as finding you). Ok, so are you saying that the Hide action [I]does[/I] in fact prevent you from being seen while not covered or concealed at all, because all enemies are just looking in another direction? [/QUOTE]

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