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<blockquote data-quote="kayakingpoodle" data-source="post: 9591469" data-attributes="member: 6988762">The spell is just that a spell it is cast, and has no other requirements to work. It works until time runs out, or something is done to break it. You can literally vanish in site of the enemy. Hide requires you to be out of sight and roll a stealth check. Which is the DC for the perception check while you're hidden (shadows, cover....) you are not hidden if you are in their line of sight. Hiding is not the spell, it just provides the same effect until you are seen.&nbsp; You can't move in the open where they are looking while hiding.&nbsp; You can with the spell. Apples and oranges, other that both provide a similar effect. The big difference being while hidden you're essentially invisible until the spell ends or are seen, while with the spell you are invisible until the spell ends.If your hiding and the enemy doesn't see or find you, then there is little difference between the 2, if you get caught hiding the gig is up. With the spell you are just invisible so you can't be caught. This is ignoring things like blind/tremor sight et al.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kayakingpoodle, post: 9591469, member: 6988762"] The spell is just that a spell it is cast, and has no other requirements to work. It works until time runs out, or something is done to break it. You can literally vanish in site of the enemy. Hide requires you to be out of sight and roll a stealth check. Which is the DC for the perception check while you're hidden (shadows, cover....) you are not hidden if you are in their line of sight. Hiding is not the spell, it just provides the same effect until you are seen. You can't move in the open where they are looking while hiding. You can with the spell. Apples and oranges, other that both provide a similar effect. The big difference being while hidden you're essentially invisible until the spell ends or are seen, while with the spell you are invisible until the spell ends. If your hiding and the enemy doesn't see or find you, then there is little difference between the 2, if you get caught hiding the gig is up. With the spell you are just invisible so you can't be caught. This is ignoring things like blind/tremor sight et al. [/QUOTE]

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