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<blockquote data-quote="ezo" data-source="post: 9591980" data-attributes="member: 7037866">Actually... it is true. You have the rule to establish Line of Sight and I did that.Of course, which is why it is less of an issue if you play ToM or the DM just decides &quot;he is looking the other way&quot; and doesn't want to follow the rule to estabilsh Line of Sight.Yep, and as I said the DM can just handwave it however they want, but that doesn't change the fact the rule for establishing Line of Sight is met.If there is not a rule for it, there is not a rule for it. Now, that doesn't mean the DM can't do what they want, of course, but my point was in 2024 there is NO RULE for facing.Nothing you quoted says there is a rule for facing. If two creatures have Line of Sight, they can see each other. There is no obstacle or heavy obscurement preventing creating Line of Sight.Yes, I know. You brought it up already, I mentioned you brought it up, and I am well familar with the rule in 2014. But as you have said yourself, in 2024 there is none.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ezo, post: 9591980, member: 7037866"] Actually... it is true. You have the rule to establish Line of Sight and I did that. Of course, which is why it is less of an issue if you play ToM or the DM just decides "he is looking the other way" and doesn't want to follow the rule to estabilsh Line of Sight. Yep, and as I said the DM can just handwave it however they want, but that doesn't change the fact the rule for establishing Line of Sight is met. If there is not a rule for it, there is not a rule for it. Now, that doesn't mean the DM can't do what they want, of course, but my point was in 2024 there is NO RULE for facing. Nothing you quoted says there is a rule for facing. If two creatures have Line of Sight, they can see each other. There is no obstacle or heavy obscurement preventing creating Line of Sight. Yes, I know. You brought it up already, I mentioned you brought it up, and I am well familar with the rule in 2014. But as you have said yourself, in 2024 there is none. [/QUOTE]

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