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<blockquote data-quote="Selas" data-source="post: 9592578" data-attributes="member: 7047454"><p>Like Charlaquin said, the intent is most likely to enable the fantasy of assassin rogues and sneaking in a fight during the fog of combat to attack an enemy where combatants can be hard to track. I believe this is supported by the required Perception check used to "find you"--which the DM which has to roll for the creature--and the removal of the line about being always alert in all directions in combat from 2024. I think this is why they added this line in the Perception section of the DMG: "Noticing a hidden creature is never trivially easy or automatically impossible, so characters can always try Wisdom (<a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/free-rules/playing-the-game#Skills" target="_blank">Perception</a>) checks to do so."</p><p></p><p>RAW, the only thing supporting this interpretation is the line in the Hide action: "Make note of your check’s total, which is the DC for a creature to find you with a Wisdom (<a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/free-rules/playing-the-game#Skills" target="_blank">Perception</a>) check", which has been associated with the Search action. However, the description of the Search action says "When you take the Search action, you make a Wisdom check to discern something that isn’t obvious"; but as this is not part of the Hide action, you shouldn't use this as a reason to not do a Perception check. Ultimately, as a DM is your call</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Selas, post: 9592578, member: 7047454"] Like Charlaquin said, the intent is most likely to enable the fantasy of assassin rogues and sneaking in a fight during the fog of combat to attack an enemy where combatants can be hard to track. I believe this is supported by the required Perception check used to "find you"--which the DM which has to roll for the creature--and the removal of the line about being always alert in all directions in combat from 2024. I think this is why they added this line in the Perception section of the DMG: "Noticing a hidden creature is never trivially easy or automatically impossible, so characters can always try Wisdom ([URL='https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/free-rules/playing-the-game#Skills']Perception[/URL]) checks to do so." RAW, the only thing supporting this interpretation is the line in the Hide action: "Make note of your check’s total, which is the DC for a creature to find you with a Wisdom ([URL='https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/free-rules/playing-the-game#Skills']Perception[/URL]) check", which has been associated with the Search action. However, the description of the Search action says "When you take the Search action, you make a Wisdom check to discern something that isn’t obvious"; but as this is not part of the Hide action, you shouldn't use this as a reason to not do a Perception check. Ultimately, as a DM is your call [/QUOTE]
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