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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 9595340" data-attributes="member: 6877472">It's been so long since I found Stealth to be viable in a TTRPG I don't make characters who rely on it.&nbsp; Even my long-running multiclass 2e Thief character has magic items that augment or supplant his innate stealth, to the point that the ability that gets the most use is Detect Noise!&nbsp; In fact, if anything, I'd love to tell my past self to be a Fighter/M-U instead, lol.Certainly, attempts to &quot;scout ahead&quot; in the current century have inevitably led to solo encounters (or ones I have to survive long enough for my allies to come save me) often enough that if I am trained in Stealth, I don't bother advertising that fact.It's far easier to do end runs around Stealth with magic (Familiars, Wild Shape, Polymorph, etc. etc.).&nbsp; The last time I had to sneak anywhere, the DM was kind enough to rule that Wind Walk was sufficient to avoid detection (not that the spell says such a thing, but he said it felt logical, and I was certainly not going to argue the point!).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 9595340, member: 6877472"] It's been so long since I found Stealth to be viable in a TTRPG I don't make characters who rely on it. Even my long-running multiclass 2e Thief character has magic items that augment or supplant his innate stealth, to the point that the ability that gets the most use is Detect Noise! In fact, if anything, I'd love to tell my past self to be a Fighter/M-U instead, lol. Certainly, attempts to "scout ahead" in the current century have inevitably led to solo encounters (or ones I have to survive long enough for my allies to come save me) often enough that if I am trained in Stealth, I don't bother advertising that fact. It's far easier to do end runs around Stealth with magic (Familiars, Wild Shape, Polymorph, etc. etc.). The last time I had to sneak anywhere, the DM was kind enough to rule that Wind Walk was sufficient to avoid detection (not that the spell says such a thing, but he said it felt logical, and I was certainly not going to argue the point!). [/QUOTE]

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