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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8935752" data-attributes="member: 18">Yeah that's a sort of more recent, accidental example of the kind that we wouldn't see from Paizo today. Back in the '80s and parts of the '90s, it was quite intentional in that some designers thought it was totally fine to make the evil gnolls or orcs have all the superficial trappings of a Native American culture for example. Whereas others, even in say, 1989, with Taladas were actively working to subvert that (all the most &quot;threatening&quot; cultures in Taladas are human or elven, including the &quot;Mongol Horde&quot; equivalent, who are elves/half-elves mostly).Over the '90s there was slooooooowly increasing awareness that this assigning oppressed real-world cultures to baddies might not be great, and some clumsy attempts to correct it were made (and adept ones from others), but for whatever reason, 3rd edition and the d20 revolution spurred a lot of what I'd classify as slightly teenage edgelord-y products, and yeah, Burnt Offerings falls into that, and whilst they're careful to avoid giving the goblins any cultural traits which might align them with a real world group (IIRC), they do end up positioning them in an unfortunate way. It wasn't the most inappropriate Paizo/PF1 book either (the less said of that the better).Ironically this all somehow ended up with people absolutely loving Pathfinder goblins though. Not exactly sure how that happened.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8935752, member: 18"] Yeah that's a sort of more recent, accidental example of the kind that we wouldn't see from Paizo today. Back in the '80s and parts of the '90s, it was quite intentional in that some designers thought it was totally fine to make the evil gnolls or orcs have all the superficial trappings of a Native American culture for example. Whereas others, even in say, 1989, with Taladas were actively working to subvert that (all the most "threatening" cultures in Taladas are human or elven, including the "Mongol Horde" equivalent, who are elves/half-elves mostly). Over the '90s there was slooooooowly increasing awareness that this assigning oppressed real-world cultures to baddies might not be great, and some clumsy attempts to correct it were made (and adept ones from others), but for whatever reason, 3rd edition and the d20 revolution spurred a lot of what I'd classify as slightly teenage edgelord-y products, and yeah, Burnt Offerings falls into that, and whilst they're careful to avoid giving the goblins any cultural traits which might align them with a real world group (IIRC), they do end up positioning them in an unfortunate way. It wasn't the most inappropriate Paizo/PF1 book either (the less said of that the better). Ironically this all somehow ended up with people absolutely loving Pathfinder goblins though. Not exactly sure how that happened. [/QUOTE]

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