Pathfinder 1E Thunderscape and Kobold Press Deep Magic

[cgraph]

Both were successful kickstarters and both are supposed to come out in 2014, but so far I can't find even a quarterly estimated release date for:

Deep Magic, from Kobold Press

or

Thunderscape from Kyoudai Games.

Have any of the KS backers gotten any info about the general release dates, pdf or hardcopy?

 

[Vanye]

According to the most recent update I could find in my email, Deep Magic is on track for a may release. That was from Jan 6.