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Tiamat and Bahamut--Why Use Real World Mythology?
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<blockquote data-quote="kennew142" data-source="post: 3938914" data-attributes="member: 18490"><p>I'm going to be honest. I think this whole argument is kind of silly. Most D&D players have no problem with the names Bahamut and Tiamat, and couldn't care less that they are real world names applies to D&D entities. If you don't like it, change it in your game. To insist that the rest of the D&D playing world change to suit your tastes is hubristic.</p><p></p><p>I don't care that Orcus is an ancient Etruscan-Roman death god, that Asmodeus has his roots in Judeo-Christian mysticism, that Tiamat and Bahamut are originally ancient semitic gods/demons. My degrees are all in ancient history, literature and religion, and it would never have occurred to me to get worked up these issues. The D&D entities are reimagined creatures based on the evocative feel of the name. Authors borrow names and imagery from one another all the time. The yog-sothoth of HP Lovecraft isn't exactly the same as the yog-sothoth of Clark Ashton-Smith, Robert E. Howard or August Derleth (let alone the authors of Doctor Who novels).</p><p></p><p>I am not really trying to belittle the OP (this issue obvious bothers him quite a bit), but I seriously doubt that the average D&D player is bothered by this borrowing in any way. Many of us have been using Bahamut, Tiamat, Orcus, Asmodeus (et alii) from the beginning, and have many fine memories of conflict with their minions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kennew142, post: 3938914, member: 18490"] I'm going to be honest. I think this whole argument is kind of silly. Most D&D players have no problem with the names Bahamut and Tiamat, and couldn't care less that they are real world names applies to D&D entities. If you don't like it, change it in your game. To insist that the rest of the D&D playing world change to suit your tastes is hubristic. I don't care that Orcus is an ancient Etruscan-Roman death god, that Asmodeus has his roots in Judeo-Christian mysticism, that Tiamat and Bahamut are originally ancient semitic gods/demons. My degrees are all in ancient history, literature and religion, and it would never have occurred to me to get worked up these issues. The D&D entities are reimagined creatures based on the evocative feel of the name. Authors borrow names and imagery from one another all the time. The yog-sothoth of HP Lovecraft isn't exactly the same as the yog-sothoth of Clark Ashton-Smith, Robert E. Howard or August Derleth (let alone the authors of Doctor Who novels). I am not really trying to belittle the OP (this issue obvious bothers him quite a bit), but I seriously doubt that the average D&D player is bothered by this borrowing in any way. Many of us have been using Bahamut, Tiamat, Orcus, Asmodeus (et alii) from the beginning, and have many fine memories of conflict with their minions. [/QUOTE]
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