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<blockquote data-quote="Lylandra" data-source="post: 7508071" data-attributes="member: 6816692"><p><strong>Diplomatic matters</strong></p><p></p><p>Before dessert, there is another break and Lya Jierre turns to us to talk about the “misunderstandings” we had. We sincerely ask her what these “misunderstandings” might be as she's probably already talked to her brother Luc. She says that she's quite adamant that the Obscurati are a group of people who are working towards making the world a better place. As it is a multinational society, keeping their existence hidden is only natural as the occasional war would make cooperation almost impossible. For herself and Luc, bringing the magic back to Danor is among their top priorities which is why Luc developed the Lantern and tried to conduct experiments on planar energies. Without magic, she insists, it will be hard for Danor and Risur to be on equal terms now that Risur takes great leaps in terms of industrialization. </p><p></p><p>Carlyle replies that while he understands this noble goal, he cannot trust an organization that's so desperately trying to stay hidden at all costs. This sort of intransparent secrecy can easily lead to dark paths, especially when one considers the fact that this Nicodemus figure is the only one who's keeping all the different strings in his hands. </p><p></p><p>Regarding Nicodemus, we explain that his malicious, raging attack on us during the Vendricce convention should be enough evidence that he's not the nicest character. Also, we know that he's directly involved in the Macbannin incident and the Bleak Gate factory we've unearthed. We then add that her very own brother uttered his fear that someone might be able to gain world domination by abusing his Lantern technology.</p><p></p><p>Lya answers that she's sure the Lantern will turn out to be a tool like the steam engine. Potentially dangerous, yes, but with so many opportunities to be used in a peaceful manner. Carlyle again stresses out that the steam engine wasn't developed in secret and also no one tried to use lethal force to protect it from seeing the light of the public. Still we do believe her regarding her and Luc's own altruistic intentions of trying to make the world a better place. </p><p></p><p>Auryn then tries to remember her about the evidence we've shown to Luc. She talks about all these horrible acts that the Obscurati committed in Flint, stressing out that Macbannin, a genuinely good-natured man got tricked into endangering those he cared for the most (the citizens of the Nettles). She adds that we got evidence that the guy who's responsible for this, Leone Quintal, might still be conducting research at some dark place. Research that might, again, endanger the lives of thousands of innocents. </p><p></p><p>As Lya has a hard time believing us, we then suggest that she might ask her fiancee, King Aodhan, whether she could take a view at some of the OB files and the speak to Luc again to check whether these reports and his own experiences after his visit of the witchoil factory match up. Carlyle stresses out a second time that he's more than concerned by the cell structure of the Obscurati, especially considering the fact that an altruistic individual like herself didn't know that one of the other cells is up to something malicious. We only hope that she's now able to understand our point of view and our skepticism as our first contact with the organization was directly tied to preventing mass murder. </p><p></p><p>Still we can understand how someone wishes to improve life on this beautiful yet terrible world. But we'd never risk so much collateral damage or use unethical methods for reaching our aims. </p><p></p><p>Last but not least, Auryn asks Lya about her stance on slavery as this still seems to be a custom in Danor. The tiefling replies that she's no friend of serfdom, but it might be hard to change this system from one day to another, so changing this might take a while.</p><p><span style="color: #008000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #008000">(Haha, what an euphemism. Lya is surely one master diplomat.</span></p><p><span style="color: #008000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #008000">All in all we got the impression that we got her thinking. Like Luc, Lya seems to be benevolent and idealistic at her core, but she's far more cunning than her brother. And she's far more convinced that the Obscurati are the well-meaning secret society they'd like to appear as.) </span></p><p><span style="color: #008000"></span></p><p>We are then called back to dessert and get to taste some of the best sweets from both Danor and Risur. This concludes the formal part of the dinner and most guests use this opportunity to split into smaller groups and do some private talks. </p><p></p><p>We return to Lya to continue our talks with her. She doesn't know too much about Bergeron besides the fact that he's an archaeologist and she suspects that he might have tried to spy on her brother. When we link him to Macbannin, she supports the thought that this whole group might have gone rogue under the influence of Quintal. Auryn mentions that Bergeron seemed to have been a caring individual in life whose letter indicated that he simply wanted to attend to a “business meeting” - probably with the Obs. </p><p></p><p>She then asks Lya why Danor is trying to use technology to solve their problem with magic as this seems a bit antithetical. In her eyes, the anti-magic zone is more likely a spiritual problem or the result of a goddess' dying curse. So the most logical way to approach this problem would be to ask those people whose goddess has died for help. </p><p></p><p>“To put it bluntly, have you ever considered... doing penance? History tells us that it were the clergy's Hierarchs who first got turned into your people, the people who founded Danor. And it were the Hierarchs who were responsible for Srasama's death and the near annihilation of my people. Yet your people did nothing to reconcile with the surviving Eladrin. On the contrary, your rich citizens still torment us to this very day and prevent us from being whole again. I cannot see how this divine curse can ever be lifted if you don't change your ways.” </p><p></p><p>Lya seems pretty surprised at Auryn's proposal as this is clearly an idea that never occurred to her before. She then says that the Eladrin's approach is surely fascinating, albeit a bit esoteric for her taste. Still, conducting research about divine curses might be an interesting thought. Auryn on the other hand isn't really sure whether Lya actually understood what she was trying to say. </p><p></p><p><span style="color: #008000">(Yeah, this was her basically saying “you'll never have magic if you don't make peace with Elfaivar and acknowledge that your ancestors did wrong. Oh and let my people go!” and Lya responding “this is not science, but thank you anyway”</span></p><p><span style="color: #008000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #008000">The two women's ways of analyzing and solving problems is so completely different even if they both are highly logical creatures. But while Auryn was born with the gift of magic and close to the Dreaming, Lya probably never approached magic in any other way than distant, scientific equations. </span></p><p><span style="color: #008000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #008000">Auryn is also trying very hard to getting people to sympathize with the struggles of “New Elfaivar”, even if this might be hard in the case of the Danorans. Still she's ready to fill the gap should the King put his attentions to other possible allies after the Obscurati troubles regarding the Danorans and Lya.)</span></p><p></p><p>As it is time for private talks, we see that King Aodhan and Sovereign Jierre retreat to one of the separate chambers, leaving Harkover Lee pretty much alone. So Auryn takes him aside to one of the the many balconies of the Aurum to discuss their planned trip to the Bleak Gate. She tells the Principal Minister that we'll take Asrabey with us, as we do hope to find and rescue Kasvarina there. But we still haven't made up our mind regarding Grappa. We'd also take our friendly neighborhood dragon tyrant with us, so Flying Spark won't be able to guard the King from now on and Lee will be on his own again. </p><p></p><p>This leads to Lee giving her a heartfelt laughter as he asks how that tiny faerie dragon possibly earned this fearsome title. She answers that Flying Spark occupied her garden the moment she offered him to use it as a base to explore Flint. And as it seems, he has a fondness for Matriarch's daughters, who are not the princesses of old faerie tales, but share enough similarities to qualify. </p><p></p><p>Auryn then turns to Lee and asks him cautiously who he truly is as she's pretty sure that he's lived longer than 50 years. Lee blinks a few times as the question clearly irritates him and then asks her about her own guess without denying her assumption. Auryn replies that she thought he was a Fey Lord for some time, but then had to dismiss this thought. </p><p></p><p>“This doesn't seem too far off, does it? So why do you think I can't be one of your kind?” </p><p></p><p>“Well, I don't wish to offend you in any way, but, you see, your knowledge regarding the Fey is so convincingly basic that I can rule this option out. However, your magical prowess is beyond anything I've seen so far, so you must be quite powerful.”</p><p></p><p>Harkover Lee turns quite stern at Auryn's logic and stares at her with growing interest. He then asks her why this would matter to her at all as he usually isn't the most interesting of people. </p><p></p><p>“But that's not true at all.” she answers. “You are a truly fascinating person. Regarding my motive, I'm merely curious and interested in knowing more about the King's best man and most loyal guardian. There might be a time when we all need to combine our resources in order to protect our King and, in my opinion, making plans is much easier when you know all about your possible options. So please, don't take my curiosity as a sign that I don't trust you. Because I truly believe that the King and Risur could have no better Principal Minister than Harkover Lee.”</p><p></p><p>After a few seconds of silence and continual stares, Lee clears his throat and then excuses himself as he's pretty sure someone just called for him and “this War Minister” needs a watchful eye. Just when Lee is out of Auryn's sight, she receives a mental message that sounds cold as ice and dead serious:</p><p></p><p>“Do NOT inquire any further, young lady. Take this as a warning.”</p><p></p><p>It takes a few minutes and Carlyle finds his partner still standing on the balcony, her skin slightly paler than usual. He asks her how her talk with Lee went as, judging by her posture, the Principal Minister must have scared the hell out of her. Now Auryn gets that Carlyle meant this as a joke to break the ice, but she replies that he did just that before telling him about their encounter. She adds that she still trusts Lee, but there's something mysterious and powerful about him and he surely has this killing intent when it comes to keeping his secrets. </p><p></p><p><span style="color: #008000">(Uh yeah, regarding Lee... while Auryn only tried to express her honest feelings towards the Principal Minister, I'm still not sure whether he'd again taken her comment as part flirtation. She's naturally curious and we've been talking about the true identity of Lee ever since the Coaltongue incident. She also knows that he's loyal and trustworthy, but she also knows that she's capable of thinking outside the box like few others and would love to put Lee's true colors into the equation when making plans. Also, her name is basically "keeper of secrets", so his identity would have been safe with her. </span></p><p><span style="color: #008000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #008000">As Lee was so totally irritated and needed a few moments to get himself sorted, I guess that scaring Auryn was his best chance of getting her off trail. And maybe she almost got him with her arguments and he realized what kind of dilemma he ended up with. Now that we know a bit more about him, that reaction was pretty natural.</span></p><p><span style="color: #008000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #008000">Also note that Lee was totally okay with being a hypothetical Fey Lord. Something a "real" Fey Lord in disguise would have made more fuss about. But Lee surely doesn't know that Auryn is so close to one of those) </span></p><p></p><p>When we return to the banquet hall, King Aodhan approaches us and asks us to have a few words in private now that his talks with Han Jierre are over. The King says that Lee told him about our Bleak Gate plans and he's quite relieved to hear that we found a probable way to get there as he'd otherwise have to use a very straining ritual to get us there. We add that we're still not sure about Grappa as he could be the catalyst for a catastrophe. Still, he's the only one who can lead us to the complex safely and we might need his help. </p><p></p><p>Aodhan says that he trusts our decisions in this regard and suggests that we could simply go there, take a few peeks and return later. We explain that this won't be possible as the wand we got has limited charges and we don't know how to return once we get there. Auryn thanks the King for his trust, but adds that she has quite the hard time making a decision as she fears that she might be fated to cause a calamity. After all, Ashima-Shimtu prophecised that we'll doom this world and Ekossigan's and Nevard's visions might all be related to this fate. </p><p></p><p>“So you prefer to let a prophecy paralyze you? Don't let this demon scare you away from making your own decisions.”</p><p></p><p>Auryn nods at his advice and says that she didn't plan to not decide, it is just so damn hard to make the right decision. And if she decides, then she'll have to bear the consequences of her actions afterward. The King seems satisfied with her answer and then turns the subject to Harkover Lee as he's heard that a certain someone has shown her interest in his Principal Minister. He's sorry should Lee have scared her as he's sure that Auryn and Carlyle have only Risur's best interest in mind. But the matter of Harkover Lee's identity is something that should exclusively stay part of the pact between the King and his Minister. Which is why we should better end our inquiries. </p><p></p><p>“Well, I'm still intrigued. But if this is an order from my Matriarch, then I'll gladly obey.”</p><p></p><p>The King chuckles at her words and then adds “I'd rather be called a Patriarch, but yes, this is an order”</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #008000">(I tried to translate this wordplay as far as possible, but unfortunately it lost most of its absurdity. Originally, Auryn called Aodhan “Matriarchin”, which is a feminine word and the one usually used in German. He preferred to be called “Matriarch” which would be a masculine word for a female-exclusive title, thus agreeing to her titling and simply adjusting the gender.</span></p><p><span style="color: #008000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #008000">And yes, these prophecies begin to really unsettle her. Remember the episode in the Crypta where we simply pushed Ashima-Shimtu's "doom" aside as if it was nonsense? Times change...)</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lylandra, post: 7508071, member: 6816692"] [b]Diplomatic matters[/b] Before dessert, there is another break and Lya Jierre turns to us to talk about the “misunderstandings” we had. We sincerely ask her what these “misunderstandings” might be as she's probably already talked to her brother Luc. She says that she's quite adamant that the Obscurati are a group of people who are working towards making the world a better place. As it is a multinational society, keeping their existence hidden is only natural as the occasional war would make cooperation almost impossible. For herself and Luc, bringing the magic back to Danor is among their top priorities which is why Luc developed the Lantern and tried to conduct experiments on planar energies. Without magic, she insists, it will be hard for Danor and Risur to be on equal terms now that Risur takes great leaps in terms of industrialization. Carlyle replies that while he understands this noble goal, he cannot trust an organization that's so desperately trying to stay hidden at all costs. This sort of intransparent secrecy can easily lead to dark paths, especially when one considers the fact that this Nicodemus figure is the only one who's keeping all the different strings in his hands. Regarding Nicodemus, we explain that his malicious, raging attack on us during the Vendricce convention should be enough evidence that he's not the nicest character. Also, we know that he's directly involved in the Macbannin incident and the Bleak Gate factory we've unearthed. We then add that her very own brother uttered his fear that someone might be able to gain world domination by abusing his Lantern technology. Lya answers that she's sure the Lantern will turn out to be a tool like the steam engine. Potentially dangerous, yes, but with so many opportunities to be used in a peaceful manner. Carlyle again stresses out that the steam engine wasn't developed in secret and also no one tried to use lethal force to protect it from seeing the light of the public. Still we do believe her regarding her and Luc's own altruistic intentions of trying to make the world a better place. Auryn then tries to remember her about the evidence we've shown to Luc. She talks about all these horrible acts that the Obscurati committed in Flint, stressing out that Macbannin, a genuinely good-natured man got tricked into endangering those he cared for the most (the citizens of the Nettles). She adds that we got evidence that the guy who's responsible for this, Leone Quintal, might still be conducting research at some dark place. Research that might, again, endanger the lives of thousands of innocents. As Lya has a hard time believing us, we then suggest that she might ask her fiancee, King Aodhan, whether she could take a view at some of the OB files and the speak to Luc again to check whether these reports and his own experiences after his visit of the witchoil factory match up. Carlyle stresses out a second time that he's more than concerned by the cell structure of the Obscurati, especially considering the fact that an altruistic individual like herself didn't know that one of the other cells is up to something malicious. We only hope that she's now able to understand our point of view and our skepticism as our first contact with the organization was directly tied to preventing mass murder. Still we can understand how someone wishes to improve life on this beautiful yet terrible world. But we'd never risk so much collateral damage or use unethical methods for reaching our aims. Last but not least, Auryn asks Lya about her stance on slavery as this still seems to be a custom in Danor. The tiefling replies that she's no friend of serfdom, but it might be hard to change this system from one day to another, so changing this might take a while. [COLOR="#008000"] (Haha, what an euphemism. Lya is surely one master diplomat. All in all we got the impression that we got her thinking. Like Luc, Lya seems to be benevolent and idealistic at her core, but she's far more cunning than her brother. And she's far more convinced that the Obscurati are the well-meaning secret society they'd like to appear as.) [/COLOR] We are then called back to dessert and get to taste some of the best sweets from both Danor and Risur. This concludes the formal part of the dinner and most guests use this opportunity to split into smaller groups and do some private talks. We return to Lya to continue our talks with her. She doesn't know too much about Bergeron besides the fact that he's an archaeologist and she suspects that he might have tried to spy on her brother. When we link him to Macbannin, she supports the thought that this whole group might have gone rogue under the influence of Quintal. Auryn mentions that Bergeron seemed to have been a caring individual in life whose letter indicated that he simply wanted to attend to a “business meeting” - probably with the Obs. She then asks Lya why Danor is trying to use technology to solve their problem with magic as this seems a bit antithetical. In her eyes, the anti-magic zone is more likely a spiritual problem or the result of a goddess' dying curse. So the most logical way to approach this problem would be to ask those people whose goddess has died for help. “To put it bluntly, have you ever considered... doing penance? History tells us that it were the clergy's Hierarchs who first got turned into your people, the people who founded Danor. And it were the Hierarchs who were responsible for Srasama's death and the near annihilation of my people. Yet your people did nothing to reconcile with the surviving Eladrin. On the contrary, your rich citizens still torment us to this very day and prevent us from being whole again. I cannot see how this divine curse can ever be lifted if you don't change your ways.” Lya seems pretty surprised at Auryn's proposal as this is clearly an idea that never occurred to her before. She then says that the Eladrin's approach is surely fascinating, albeit a bit esoteric for her taste. Still, conducting research about divine curses might be an interesting thought. Auryn on the other hand isn't really sure whether Lya actually understood what she was trying to say. [COLOR="#008000"](Yeah, this was her basically saying “you'll never have magic if you don't make peace with Elfaivar and acknowledge that your ancestors did wrong. Oh and let my people go!” and Lya responding “this is not science, but thank you anyway” The two women's ways of analyzing and solving problems is so completely different even if they both are highly logical creatures. But while Auryn was born with the gift of magic and close to the Dreaming, Lya probably never approached magic in any other way than distant, scientific equations. Auryn is also trying very hard to getting people to sympathize with the struggles of “New Elfaivar”, even if this might be hard in the case of the Danorans. Still she's ready to fill the gap should the King put his attentions to other possible allies after the Obscurati troubles regarding the Danorans and Lya.)[/COLOR] As it is time for private talks, we see that King Aodhan and Sovereign Jierre retreat to one of the separate chambers, leaving Harkover Lee pretty much alone. So Auryn takes him aside to one of the the many balconies of the Aurum to discuss their planned trip to the Bleak Gate. She tells the Principal Minister that we'll take Asrabey with us, as we do hope to find and rescue Kasvarina there. But we still haven't made up our mind regarding Grappa. We'd also take our friendly neighborhood dragon tyrant with us, so Flying Spark won't be able to guard the King from now on and Lee will be on his own again. This leads to Lee giving her a heartfelt laughter as he asks how that tiny faerie dragon possibly earned this fearsome title. She answers that Flying Spark occupied her garden the moment she offered him to use it as a base to explore Flint. And as it seems, he has a fondness for Matriarch's daughters, who are not the princesses of old faerie tales, but share enough similarities to qualify. Auryn then turns to Lee and asks him cautiously who he truly is as she's pretty sure that he's lived longer than 50 years. Lee blinks a few times as the question clearly irritates him and then asks her about her own guess without denying her assumption. Auryn replies that she thought he was a Fey Lord for some time, but then had to dismiss this thought. “This doesn't seem too far off, does it? So why do you think I can't be one of your kind?” “Well, I don't wish to offend you in any way, but, you see, your knowledge regarding the Fey is so convincingly basic that I can rule this option out. However, your magical prowess is beyond anything I've seen so far, so you must be quite powerful.” Harkover Lee turns quite stern at Auryn's logic and stares at her with growing interest. He then asks her why this would matter to her at all as he usually isn't the most interesting of people. “But that's not true at all.” she answers. “You are a truly fascinating person. Regarding my motive, I'm merely curious and interested in knowing more about the King's best man and most loyal guardian. There might be a time when we all need to combine our resources in order to protect our King and, in my opinion, making plans is much easier when you know all about your possible options. So please, don't take my curiosity as a sign that I don't trust you. Because I truly believe that the King and Risur could have no better Principal Minister than Harkover Lee.” After a few seconds of silence and continual stares, Lee clears his throat and then excuses himself as he's pretty sure someone just called for him and “this War Minister” needs a watchful eye. Just when Lee is out of Auryn's sight, she receives a mental message that sounds cold as ice and dead serious: “Do NOT inquire any further, young lady. Take this as a warning.” It takes a few minutes and Carlyle finds his partner still standing on the balcony, her skin slightly paler than usual. He asks her how her talk with Lee went as, judging by her posture, the Principal Minister must have scared the hell out of her. Now Auryn gets that Carlyle meant this as a joke to break the ice, but she replies that he did just that before telling him about their encounter. She adds that she still trusts Lee, but there's something mysterious and powerful about him and he surely has this killing intent when it comes to keeping his secrets. [COLOR="#008000"](Uh yeah, regarding Lee... while Auryn only tried to express her honest feelings towards the Principal Minister, I'm still not sure whether he'd again taken her comment as part flirtation. She's naturally curious and we've been talking about the true identity of Lee ever since the Coaltongue incident. She also knows that he's loyal and trustworthy, but she also knows that she's capable of thinking outside the box like few others and would love to put Lee's true colors into the equation when making plans. Also, her name is basically "keeper of secrets", so his identity would have been safe with her. As Lee was so totally irritated and needed a few moments to get himself sorted, I guess that scaring Auryn was his best chance of getting her off trail. And maybe she almost got him with her arguments and he realized what kind of dilemma he ended up with. Now that we know a bit more about him, that reaction was pretty natural. Also note that Lee was totally okay with being a hypothetical Fey Lord. Something a "real" Fey Lord in disguise would have made more fuss about. But Lee surely doesn't know that Auryn is so close to one of those) [/COLOR] When we return to the banquet hall, King Aodhan approaches us and asks us to have a few words in private now that his talks with Han Jierre are over. The King says that Lee told him about our Bleak Gate plans and he's quite relieved to hear that we found a probable way to get there as he'd otherwise have to use a very straining ritual to get us there. We add that we're still not sure about Grappa as he could be the catalyst for a catastrophe. Still, he's the only one who can lead us to the complex safely and we might need his help. Aodhan says that he trusts our decisions in this regard and suggests that we could simply go there, take a few peeks and return later. We explain that this won't be possible as the wand we got has limited charges and we don't know how to return once we get there. Auryn thanks the King for his trust, but adds that she has quite the hard time making a decision as she fears that she might be fated to cause a calamity. After all, Ashima-Shimtu prophecised that we'll doom this world and Ekossigan's and Nevard's visions might all be related to this fate. “So you prefer to let a prophecy paralyze you? Don't let this demon scare you away from making your own decisions.” Auryn nods at his advice and says that she didn't plan to not decide, it is just so damn hard to make the right decision. And if she decides, then she'll have to bear the consequences of her actions afterward. The King seems satisfied with her answer and then turns the subject to Harkover Lee as he's heard that a certain someone has shown her interest in his Principal Minister. He's sorry should Lee have scared her as he's sure that Auryn and Carlyle have only Risur's best interest in mind. But the matter of Harkover Lee's identity is something that should exclusively stay part of the pact between the King and his Minister. Which is why we should better end our inquiries. “Well, I'm still intrigued. But if this is an order from my Matriarch, then I'll gladly obey.” The King chuckles at her words and then adds “I'd rather be called a Patriarch, but yes, this is an order” [COLOR="#008000"](I tried to translate this wordplay as far as possible, but unfortunately it lost most of its absurdity. Originally, Auryn called Aodhan “Matriarchin”, which is a feminine word and the one usually used in German. He preferred to be called “Matriarch” which would be a masculine word for a female-exclusive title, thus agreeing to her titling and simply adjusting the gender. And yes, these prophecies begin to really unsettle her. Remember the episode in the Crypta where we simply pushed Ashima-Shimtu's "doom" aside as if it was nonsense? Times change...)[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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