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<blockquote data-quote="Lylandra" data-source="post: 8222795" data-attributes="member: 6816692"><p><strong><em>Spiritual diplomacy </em></strong></p><p> </p><p>This time, we agree that the deva part of our duo might have the upper hand in the talks as the soldiers might take Carlyle for being part of the reinforcements they are desperately waiting for. Still we don't really know what we're getting into, so we decide to wait till night falls and scout their encampment once more. This way, we learn that no only the morale is at a low point, but that there are also several wounded soldiers and apparently a lack of healing magic. What makes matters worse for the Crisillyiri is the fact that the reinforcements won't be coming for a long time, should they come at all. A fact that appears to be carefully hidden inside the commander's office desk.</p><p></p><p>“I knew they were cruel, but to let their own be abandoned without hope like that is yet another level of depravity”, Carlyle says mentally and we retreat for now.</p><p></p><p>The next morning, we both just walk to the gate out on the open and try to greet the Crisillyiri. Our politeness is returned with an arrow in front of our feet and a quick question whether the deva would be a soldier with a Were-Tiger prisoner. Carlyle quickly points out that Auryn is no Bagheva, or Were-Tiger as they'd call them, but rather an Eladrin emissary from another enclave who came here to negotiate. So, no prisoner, but a diplomat. Carlyle continues to ask to be able to talk to the one who's in charge here and he promises that we'll enter and leave peacefully.</p><p></p><p>The Crisillyiri tell us to wait as they'd relegate our request to a man called Aulus Atticus, a noble Godhand of the Clergy. Said Aulus Atticus appears to be a handsome and tall man who agrees to let us enter their encampment as he cannot sense any betrayal in our words. The soldiers are as confused and wary at our presence as the Bagheva were before, but Aulus seems to be untouched by their emotional instability. We thank the man for this opportunity to maybe solve this conflict with words rather than weapons, and Aulus is curious about the reason we came here.</p><p></p><p>Carlyle explains that we came here on behalf of the Bagheva, or Were-Tigers as they'd call them, who are merely trying to defend their ancient home from foreign invaders. Auryn adds that she has seen what the Crisillyiri did to her people, be they Bagheva or not. She talks about the abandoned villages, about the refugees who were driven off their land and families that got torn apart by this needless violence. Carlyle finishes the statement by explaining that many of these refugees now reside in a holy site, their last Sanctum that they are surely going to defend relentlessly until either them or the Crisillyiri are dead.</p><p></p><p>“I don't know how many wars you have fought in, noble Godhand, but I have fought the Eladrin on their home turf in the great war five hundred years ago. This is not an experience I want you to share. And the people I fought were not as cornered as the Bagheva are right now.”</p><p></p><p>He lets these words sink in for a moment before he continues.</p><p></p><p>“And I know that your soldiers are desperately waiting for reinforcements. Reinforcements, which as we both know, will never arrive. Meanwhile, the Bagheva have sent out a call to help to other clans and the nearby enclaves. And they are about to rally allies as you can clearly see by our presence.”</p><p></p><p>This news appear to deal another heavy blow to the morale of the surrounding soldiers who listened to our exchange with Aulus Atticus with great interest. Of course the Godhand realizes this as the spreading poison it could be, which is why he kindly asks us to continue our talk in his office. Carlyle smiles confidently as we agree to go inside.</p><p></p><p>Once inside, Aulus Atticus pretty directly states that he has no personal grudge against the Eladrin savages who live here, he is just following orders and doing his job. He'd also let the Bagheva live in peace should they bow to the Theocracy, renounce their heretical faith, convert to the Clergy belief and follow the divine laws of Crisillyir.</p><p></p><p>Auryn laughs softly at this proposal before she tries to appeal to the Godhand's consciousness.</p><p></p><p>“You do know that you are the ones who entered the territory of the Eladrin, forcefully, and are about to commit blasphemous acts against their faith?”</p><p></p><p>“But your lands were forsaken after the Victory. For the Theocracy, these are empty jungles and we need the resources.”</p><p></p><p>“Don't call it.. nevermind. Our people merely hid from you, they retreated to hideouts to regrow and revive our way of life. You entered our land, so it would be more appropriate for you to adapt to our customs. Leave them be and the Bagheva will cease the violence. That much I can promise.”</p><p></p><p>Carlyle adds that, should the Crisillyiri continue their attacks, they should know that they and the other aggressive colonists are just about to cause different groups of Eladrin to join forces, which is why they could easily be the best catalyst for forging a unified Elfaivar. An Elfaivar that could turn out to be an enemy of the Clergy once more, with a new conflict that could place Aulus and his men at the front.</p><p></p><p>“Do you really want to be the man who makes the Clergy an enemy of a unified Elfaivar, Aulus Atticus?” Auryn says in a tone as friendly and warm as she can bring herself to use. Which works surprisingly well, but may also be connected to the fact that this Godhand for once seems to be reasonable and not just a blind fanatic.</p><p></p><p>The Godhand takes a deep breath and then looks at Auryn for a while. His eyes eventually fall onto the small amulet hanging around her neck and he exhales a quiet gasp as his eyes widen.</p><p></p><p>“This pendant of yours, may I take a closer look?” he asks with honest curiosity and reverence.</p><p></p><p>Auryn agrees as she once again senses no ill intent from the Godhand.</p><p></p><p>“Sweet Triegenes, this is the real one, isn't it? The Humble Hook that was lost centuries ago. I can sense its holy presence. How did this happen?”</p><p></p><p>“It left its previous owner by choice, if this is what you ask. It wasn't content with his plans and morals and now wants to be with me it seems. Ever since the Hook joined me, it encouraged me to find peaceful solutions for conflicts. I know that it must be a cruel irony for a faithful of Triegenes like you that your most holy relic chose an Eladrin, but who are we to question its choice?”</p><p></p><p>“Who are we to judge the divine, indeed. Thank you, you have given me a lot to think about, emissary Auryn.”</p><p></p><p>He then serves us a bit of what little coffee he has left and stays silent for a while. When we finish our drink, Aulus Atticus asks us to give him two more days for consideration as he doesn't want to make a hasty choice. We agree since we also have to return to the Bagheva's Sanctum and bring their chief the news of our negotiations. So we leave the encampment in peace and walk down the road for a while. Of course, we stay on alert should the Crisillyiri be foolish enough to follow us to Kanta Mahala. But for once, our trust in the Godhand doesn't seem to be misplaced as we can sense no humanoid soul in a large radius.</p><p></p><p>Carlyle still wants to be extra sure and help the Bagheva by all means possible, so he asks Auryn to return on her own while he stays close to the encampment. This way he may be on alert just in case the Godhand or another Crisillyiri tries something funny.</p><p></p><p>Auryn takes a while to return to Betronga and the Bagheva, but she is warmly welcomed this time. She tells the young Rajah about her and her Sahomi's negotiations with the humans and adds that there might be an chance that they'd leave. Betronga is a bit worried about Carlyle's whereabouts though, but Auryn stresses out that Gabriel is quite capable of surviving in the jungle. She offers Betronga to personally deliver a message to the Bagheva's sister tribes as this was one of the reasons why the human leader may consider our proposal.</p><p></p><p>“Your words are more sharp than our spears then. I've never thought that talking could hold that much power.”</p><p></p><p>“You're welcome, Betronga.” Auryn says with a chuckle.</p><p></p><p>“Would you marry me?” the Rajah then asks all of a sudden.</p><p></p><p>“Pardon?”</p><p></p><p>“I mean it. Our clan needs a person like you. I'm young, but I know what I can and what cannot do. I need a mate who is wise, knowledgeable and patient, who is what I cannot be.”</p><p></p><p>Auryn smiles at Betronga, takes his hands and then declines his generous offer politely. She explains that while she has deepest sympathy for the Bagheva and will do everything she can to ensure their survival, her destiny is elsewhere. Also, she has already set her eyes on another.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">(not that this would have worked in any kind of way. Betronga is basically a boy in Auryn's culture and what he desires in a partner is what she'd be looking for in her first husband as well.)</span></p><p></p><p>While they are waiting for Carlyle to return, Talios also shows her interest in the “enclave Eladrin”. She asks Auryn a lot of questions about her home and is quite astonished to hear that this young-looking woman is already 76 years old. She explains with some pride that the blessing of Hewanharimau had given the Bagheva the ability to grow into adulthood much quicker, and he gave them a good fertility and physical prowess on top of that. Auryn agrees that these are qualities she has seen in her mother's tiger companion as well, and that the ferocity of the Bagheva might be just what could be needed in these savage lands.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">(She was being polite here. Of course she has a lot of respect for the Bagheva's fight for survival and their adaptability, but she finds their lack of knowledge and wisdom dangerous – two qualities that only come with age and experience. To her, Talios, Betronga and most of the others are a bunch of feral teens who would really be in need of guidance. But she also knew that she couldn't fill that role. And yep, she is clearly biased by her own cultural background)</span></p><p></p><p>Meanwhile, Carlyle is taking his time to watch the Crisillyiri encampment. After some time has passed, he spots a larger troop leaving the garrison to go on a scouting mission. He follows them for a while and understands that they are looking for a new place to settle in. The place they'd find viable would still be very close to the territory of the Bagheva though. So he uses a disguise spell to take on the look of an Eladrin scout and conjures the illusion of a small group of well-armored Eladrin warriors to accompany him. He makes sure that the Crisillyiri spot the group (who are obviously watching the soldiers) eventually to let them know that they are still being in Eladrin lands. As soon as they notice the Eladrin, the humans get all nervous, pack up and retreat to their encampment.</p><p></p><p>Once Carlyle is sure that the humans won't try anything funny too soon, he returns to Bramblehome and brings everyone up to date. Betronga is very much amused that this deva is using “the mind of the enemy as a weapon”, to which he adds that Auryn once used the image of a dragon tyrant to stop an army. The young Rajah laughs loudly at this story and thanks Carlyle for his help.</p><p></p><p>As we still have one day left until we're scheduled to hear from Aulus Atticus again, we offer Betronga to deliver the blood-stenched arrow of war to their closest sister tribe and he is again glad to have such a support on his side.</p><p></p><p>The day after, we return to the encampment to meet with the Godhand on official ground. In his usual calm, he states that he doesn't wish to endanger the lives of his men more than he already has. He still has his orders, but “his faith” appears to have sent him an unambiguous message that this is not the right place for him. He makes a small nod towards the Humble Hook and smirks. Instead, after he consulted the maps and prayed for guidance, the Godhand found a way to technically still obey his orders while also being able to leave these lands behind: To simply go southwards to a large, uninhabited valley. We both are really thankful for his wisdom and express our heartfelt relief.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">(There you have it: A non-violent solution. And yes, Tinyhook was totally complicit in this solution. As players, we were both happy with the outcome as this is a very typical situation in a lot of games: Choose a faction to side with and then automatically become enemy of the opposing faction in return.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)"></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">As the player who had the Hook, I was also a bit unsure about how to properly read the rules on how to gain and lose concordance. Especially in the cases where the owner or ally kills someone without trying dialogue – would that also count for self-defense or in a large battle like the War of the Pirates on Hunlow? Does one have to try dialogue with each and every opponent? What about lawful executions? Also, why is stopping combat with diplomacy on the list (this is one reason why I wanted to get my hands on Reason so desperately) but not avoiding encounters/solving conflict by diplomacy altogether? I think Tiz would have benefited from some hints in the adventures to when or how Hook-points could be gained or lost i.e. when such a thing like stopping combat with words would realistically work.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)"></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(65, 168, 95)">Regarding Auryn's mental state, she is actually quite happy in this Elfaivar episode. After her long talk with Gabriel before their departure from Flint, she finally realized that he would always be by her side no matter what. And when they both stood on the temple of Srasama and talked about the nature of the goddess, her path forward was suddenly very clear. She is also very glad that Gabriel was very much not like Asrabey and while she knew that Gabriel once had a very strong connection to another woman, this wasn't anywhere near the situation of Kasvarina and Pillai. Also, seeing that Athryalla actually has an interest in a good relationship to Risur gave her positive vibes that their project in Kellandia might be accepted in more enclaves – especially since Athryalla is one of the three original High Matriarchs)</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lylandra, post: 8222795, member: 6816692"] [B][I]Spiritual diplomacy [/I][/B] This time, we agree that the deva part of our duo might have the upper hand in the talks as the soldiers might take Carlyle for being part of the reinforcements they are desperately waiting for. Still we don't really know what we're getting into, so we decide to wait till night falls and scout their encampment once more. This way, we learn that no only the morale is at a low point, but that there are also several wounded soldiers and apparently a lack of healing magic. What makes matters worse for the Crisillyiri is the fact that the reinforcements won't be coming for a long time, should they come at all. A fact that appears to be carefully hidden inside the commander's office desk. “I knew they were cruel, but to let their own be abandoned without hope like that is yet another level of depravity”, Carlyle says mentally and we retreat for now. The next morning, we both just walk to the gate out on the open and try to greet the Crisillyiri. Our politeness is returned with an arrow in front of our feet and a quick question whether the deva would be a soldier with a Were-Tiger prisoner. Carlyle quickly points out that Auryn is no Bagheva, or Were-Tiger as they'd call them, but rather an Eladrin emissary from another enclave who came here to negotiate. So, no prisoner, but a diplomat. Carlyle continues to ask to be able to talk to the one who's in charge here and he promises that we'll enter and leave peacefully. The Crisillyiri tell us to wait as they'd relegate our request to a man called Aulus Atticus, a noble Godhand of the Clergy. Said Aulus Atticus appears to be a handsome and tall man who agrees to let us enter their encampment as he cannot sense any betrayal in our words. The soldiers are as confused and wary at our presence as the Bagheva were before, but Aulus seems to be untouched by their emotional instability. We thank the man for this opportunity to maybe solve this conflict with words rather than weapons, and Aulus is curious about the reason we came here. Carlyle explains that we came here on behalf of the Bagheva, or Were-Tigers as they'd call them, who are merely trying to defend their ancient home from foreign invaders. Auryn adds that she has seen what the Crisillyiri did to her people, be they Bagheva or not. She talks about the abandoned villages, about the refugees who were driven off their land and families that got torn apart by this needless violence. Carlyle finishes the statement by explaining that many of these refugees now reside in a holy site, their last Sanctum that they are surely going to defend relentlessly until either them or the Crisillyiri are dead. “I don't know how many wars you have fought in, noble Godhand, but I have fought the Eladrin on their home turf in the great war five hundred years ago. This is not an experience I want you to share. And the people I fought were not as cornered as the Bagheva are right now.” He lets these words sink in for a moment before he continues. “And I know that your soldiers are desperately waiting for reinforcements. Reinforcements, which as we both know, will never arrive. Meanwhile, the Bagheva have sent out a call to help to other clans and the nearby enclaves. And they are about to rally allies as you can clearly see by our presence.” This news appear to deal another heavy blow to the morale of the surrounding soldiers who listened to our exchange with Aulus Atticus with great interest. Of course the Godhand realizes this as the spreading poison it could be, which is why he kindly asks us to continue our talk in his office. Carlyle smiles confidently as we agree to go inside. Once inside, Aulus Atticus pretty directly states that he has no personal grudge against the Eladrin savages who live here, he is just following orders and doing his job. He'd also let the Bagheva live in peace should they bow to the Theocracy, renounce their heretical faith, convert to the Clergy belief and follow the divine laws of Crisillyir. Auryn laughs softly at this proposal before she tries to appeal to the Godhand's consciousness. “You do know that you are the ones who entered the territory of the Eladrin, forcefully, and are about to commit blasphemous acts against their faith?” “But your lands were forsaken after the Victory. For the Theocracy, these are empty jungles and we need the resources.” “Don't call it.. nevermind. Our people merely hid from you, they retreated to hideouts to regrow and revive our way of life. You entered our land, so it would be more appropriate for you to adapt to our customs. Leave them be and the Bagheva will cease the violence. That much I can promise.” Carlyle adds that, should the Crisillyiri continue their attacks, they should know that they and the other aggressive colonists are just about to cause different groups of Eladrin to join forces, which is why they could easily be the best catalyst for forging a unified Elfaivar. An Elfaivar that could turn out to be an enemy of the Clergy once more, with a new conflict that could place Aulus and his men at the front. “Do you really want to be the man who makes the Clergy an enemy of a unified Elfaivar, Aulus Atticus?” Auryn says in a tone as friendly and warm as she can bring herself to use. Which works surprisingly well, but may also be connected to the fact that this Godhand for once seems to be reasonable and not just a blind fanatic. The Godhand takes a deep breath and then looks at Auryn for a while. His eyes eventually fall onto the small amulet hanging around her neck and he exhales a quiet gasp as his eyes widen. “This pendant of yours, may I take a closer look?” he asks with honest curiosity and reverence. Auryn agrees as she once again senses no ill intent from the Godhand. “Sweet Triegenes, this is the real one, isn't it? The Humble Hook that was lost centuries ago. I can sense its holy presence. How did this happen?” “It left its previous owner by choice, if this is what you ask. It wasn't content with his plans and morals and now wants to be with me it seems. Ever since the Hook joined me, it encouraged me to find peaceful solutions for conflicts. I know that it must be a cruel irony for a faithful of Triegenes like you that your most holy relic chose an Eladrin, but who are we to question its choice?” “Who are we to judge the divine, indeed. Thank you, you have given me a lot to think about, emissary Auryn.” He then serves us a bit of what little coffee he has left and stays silent for a while. When we finish our drink, Aulus Atticus asks us to give him two more days for consideration as he doesn't want to make a hasty choice. We agree since we also have to return to the Bagheva's Sanctum and bring their chief the news of our negotiations. So we leave the encampment in peace and walk down the road for a while. Of course, we stay on alert should the Crisillyiri be foolish enough to follow us to Kanta Mahala. But for once, our trust in the Godhand doesn't seem to be misplaced as we can sense no humanoid soul in a large radius. Carlyle still wants to be extra sure and help the Bagheva by all means possible, so he asks Auryn to return on her own while he stays close to the encampment. This way he may be on alert just in case the Godhand or another Crisillyiri tries something funny. Auryn takes a while to return to Betronga and the Bagheva, but she is warmly welcomed this time. She tells the young Rajah about her and her Sahomi's negotiations with the humans and adds that there might be an chance that they'd leave. Betronga is a bit worried about Carlyle's whereabouts though, but Auryn stresses out that Gabriel is quite capable of surviving in the jungle. She offers Betronga to personally deliver a message to the Bagheva's sister tribes as this was one of the reasons why the human leader may consider our proposal. “Your words are more sharp than our spears then. I've never thought that talking could hold that much power.” “You're welcome, Betronga.” Auryn says with a chuckle. “Would you marry me?” the Rajah then asks all of a sudden. “Pardon?” “I mean it. Our clan needs a person like you. I'm young, but I know what I can and what cannot do. I need a mate who is wise, knowledgeable and patient, who is what I cannot be.” Auryn smiles at Betronga, takes his hands and then declines his generous offer politely. She explains that while she has deepest sympathy for the Bagheva and will do everything she can to ensure their survival, her destiny is elsewhere. Also, she has already set her eyes on another. [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)](not that this would have worked in any kind of way. Betronga is basically a boy in Auryn's culture and what he desires in a partner is what she'd be looking for in her first husband as well.)[/COLOR] While they are waiting for Carlyle to return, Talios also shows her interest in the “enclave Eladrin”. She asks Auryn a lot of questions about her home and is quite astonished to hear that this young-looking woman is already 76 years old. She explains with some pride that the blessing of Hewanharimau had given the Bagheva the ability to grow into adulthood much quicker, and he gave them a good fertility and physical prowess on top of that. Auryn agrees that these are qualities she has seen in her mother's tiger companion as well, and that the ferocity of the Bagheva might be just what could be needed in these savage lands. [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)](She was being polite here. Of course she has a lot of respect for the Bagheva's fight for survival and their adaptability, but she finds their lack of knowledge and wisdom dangerous – two qualities that only come with age and experience. To her, Talios, Betronga and most of the others are a bunch of feral teens who would really be in need of guidance. But she also knew that she couldn't fill that role. And yep, she is clearly biased by her own cultural background)[/COLOR] Meanwhile, Carlyle is taking his time to watch the Crisillyiri encampment. After some time has passed, he spots a larger troop leaving the garrison to go on a scouting mission. He follows them for a while and understands that they are looking for a new place to settle in. The place they'd find viable would still be very close to the territory of the Bagheva though. So he uses a disguise spell to take on the look of an Eladrin scout and conjures the illusion of a small group of well-armored Eladrin warriors to accompany him. He makes sure that the Crisillyiri spot the group (who are obviously watching the soldiers) eventually to let them know that they are still being in Eladrin lands. As soon as they notice the Eladrin, the humans get all nervous, pack up and retreat to their encampment. Once Carlyle is sure that the humans won't try anything funny too soon, he returns to Bramblehome and brings everyone up to date. Betronga is very much amused that this deva is using “the mind of the enemy as a weapon”, to which he adds that Auryn once used the image of a dragon tyrant to stop an army. The young Rajah laughs loudly at this story and thanks Carlyle for his help. As we still have one day left until we're scheduled to hear from Aulus Atticus again, we offer Betronga to deliver the blood-stenched arrow of war to their closest sister tribe and he is again glad to have such a support on his side. The day after, we return to the encampment to meet with the Godhand on official ground. In his usual calm, he states that he doesn't wish to endanger the lives of his men more than he already has. He still has his orders, but “his faith” appears to have sent him an unambiguous message that this is not the right place for him. He makes a small nod towards the Humble Hook and smirks. Instead, after he consulted the maps and prayed for guidance, the Godhand found a way to technically still obey his orders while also being able to leave these lands behind: To simply go southwards to a large, uninhabited valley. We both are really thankful for his wisdom and express our heartfelt relief. [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)](There you have it: A non-violent solution. And yes, Tinyhook was totally complicit in this solution. As players, we were both happy with the outcome as this is a very typical situation in a lot of games: Choose a faction to side with and then automatically become enemy of the opposing faction in return. As the player who had the Hook, I was also a bit unsure about how to properly read the rules on how to gain and lose concordance. Especially in the cases where the owner or ally kills someone without trying dialogue – would that also count for self-defense or in a large battle like the War of the Pirates on Hunlow? Does one have to try dialogue with each and every opponent? What about lawful executions? Also, why is stopping combat with diplomacy on the list (this is one reason why I wanted to get my hands on Reason so desperately) but not avoiding encounters/solving conflict by diplomacy altogether? I think Tiz would have benefited from some hints in the adventures to when or how Hook-points could be gained or lost i.e. when such a thing like stopping combat with words would realistically work. Regarding Auryn's mental state, she is actually quite happy in this Elfaivar episode. After her long talk with Gabriel before their departure from Flint, she finally realized that he would always be by her side no matter what. And when they both stood on the temple of Srasama and talked about the nature of the goddess, her path forward was suddenly very clear. She is also very glad that Gabriel was very much not like Asrabey and while she knew that Gabriel once had a very strong connection to another woman, this wasn't anywhere near the situation of Kasvarina and Pillai. Also, seeing that Athryalla actually has an interest in a good relationship to Risur gave her positive vibes that their project in Kellandia might be accepted in more enclaves – especially since Athryalla is one of the three original High Matriarchs)[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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