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Message: <blockquote data-quote="8XXX{0}====&gt;" data-source="post: 788974" data-attributes="member: 10677">its the same (EDIT: as the snails thing), except that creeping doom drops, i think, 200 snaily things per square, and when you overlap 9 of them (thats the max, i think), the squares behind your character look like this:(note: this is a bad looking representation, as there is more doom, and a grid. But for the purposes of this, it only shows what you threaten)e= enemyc=character..............e.............................c........................4.5.4...........each number is the number of overlapped dooms. Anyway, when you whirlwind attack, you get 1 attack against the enemy, and then...2600 attacks against the dooms.If you assume they all hit, thats... 1 reg attack and 2600 cleave attacks against the enemy. At high enough level to have whirlind and cleave and greatcleave, your average damage is at least 20ish, most probably much more. Thats, what, 40000 damage w/o crits... eeeeewwwwwwww.....EDIT: Umm... when you add that spell, things start to become really really rediculously whacked...</blockquote>