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Message: <blockquote data-quote="korjik" data-source="post: 5684067" data-attributes="member: 56755">Skill based classless levelless systems are my choice. Heavy Gear 2e (not silouette, that is a good example of a skill based system gone too complex), and WEG Star Wars are my favorites.  It does depend alot on the genre tho, I do prefer D&D for its ease of play and run for a fantasy game more that a skill based system. I intensely dislike SF or modern with a level/class base system. The only reason I play SAGA is that it is Star Wars. If it werent Star Wars, there is no chance I would use the system. I dont see an issue with optimization. It is as much a problem in a level system as in a skill system, and the it should be handled the same way.</blockquote>