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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Veep" data-source="post: 6707625" data-attributes="member: 6793297">Multiclassing and HybridsMulticlassing is very important for Seekers, but it isn't as vital as it used to be- many of the dead levels in the Seeker power list now have at least one good choice. Still, if you multiclass, you can significantly improve your power list with Power swap feats and you can access new Paragon Paths and feats that may strengthen your capacity to control. If you don't plan on spending feats on Novice Power and you aren't interested in another class's feats, multiclass entry feats are still worth considering. The Cleric's Divine Healer is the obvious standout: the Heal skill, scale proficiency and a slotless +2 shield bonus to AC is just an excellent bargain at the price of a single feat slot.My ratings are not direct evaluations of the powers in question; they're a rough indicator of how much you stand to gain by spending a feat to swap for that power at that level (powers which you should swap for a seeker power of a higher level are noted as such).I'm not going to walk you through each good hybrid, but basically if you look at the section above and see at least one blue or sky blue encounter, utility, and daily power in at least two tiers, and the class in question has an At-Will power that provides useful control, then you're looking at a good Hybrid option. I will include a Hybrid rating for each class in this section.ClericThe Cleric is a WIS-based Leader class with an incredibly strong Controller subrole- the Cleric's debuffing is well known. Cleric powers have the implement keyword, but the holy symbol is one of the best implements available. It's slotless, and comes with some excellent enchantments. Just remember that many of the best debuff powers depend on CHA- obviously you should steer clear of those. MC Cleric does not open up any valuable feats or EDs, but check out the Messenger of Peace PP!Seeker|Cleric is decent, but suffers from losing a Seeker At-Will. Humans can use their bonus At-Will to mitigate this, and ignore the lower DEX by taking Battle Cleric's Lore. Moonbow Dedicate means you can bypass MID if you're willing to accept the shortbow's proficiency bonus.Entry Feats Choosing your entry feat was a choice between an extra good skill and a 1/day Healing Word, and it still is if your DM thinks RAI is important, but now Divine Healer can be used to grab Battle Cleric's Lore, letting you choose to maximize WIS and let STR/DEX fall behind or just enjoy the +2 shield bonus.Divine Healer Initiate of the Faith Power E1 Cause FearD1 Font of TearsD1 Moment of GloryU2 Veil of DarknessE3 CommandD5 Halo of ConsequenceD5 Hold FoeD9 Dismissal (remember, for some solos, "end of next turn" lasts longer than "save ends")D9 Rebuke ViolenceD9 Blade Barrier (no implement required for this one)D15 Sacred ArmisticeD25 Sacred WordE27 Divine ContemptE27 Sublime Light Paragon Paths Hammer of Moradin (if you're a dwarven hammer thrower, this is really solid stuff right here)Messenger of Peace (watch out for that unfortunate Diplomacy training prereq)Truthseeker DruidDruid is a Primal WIS-based Controller class, and so it offers some excellent material with which a Seeker can patch its spotty power list, especially post-HotF, which includes some really potent control powers. The problem is that they're implement powers, and totems are some of the least useful implements available. If you MC Druid, you should either be throwing an Alfsair Spear Javelin, or investing in tools like Quickdraw and Fast Hands. MC Druid has no good feats to offer, but it comes with a good PP and a decent ED.Druid|Seeker is mostly to grab Magic Stones and MC Fighter for Polearm Momentum. It's feat intensive and you're stuck with Alfsair Spear, but the extra control is worth it. It's still good if you MC Cleric instead for high, stat-independent AC and a slotless implement with good enchants.Entry Feats Initiate of the Old Faith (Take Grasping Claws, Savage Rend, or Swarming Locusts)Harbinger of Nature's Wrath Powers E1 Gust of WindE1 Wall of SmokeD1 Lightning ArcD1 Summon Giant ToadU2 Verdant BountyE3 Wind WallD5 Wall of Thorns (no implement required!)U6 Camouflage CloakE7 Charm Beast (This is almost gold. The only problem is that you have to delay this or Feyjump Shot til L13)D9 SunbeamU10 UpdraftD15 Baleful PolymorphD15 World WarpU16 Wall of Stone (also no implement required! Walls are great!)E17 Infiltrating Drone (Beast keyword means you're required to MC via Initiate of the Old Faith, but it's worth the inconvenience)U22 Wall of the World (Seriously)E23 Blinding Swarm (Only take if you don't have Wild Shape, otherwise keep Charm Beast- it's actually better than Dominate Beast)D25 Avian CloudD25 Summon Proud MastodonD29 Hinterlands Exile (This isn't a huge improvement over Baleful Shot but it is an improvement, and it's too cool not to mention) Paragon Paths Keeper of the Hidden Flame Epic Destinies Master Hierophant ExecutionerYou shouldn't MC Assassin, really, unless you aren't planning on spending any feats to powerswap no matter what you MC, in which case Acolyte of the Veil is a pretty decent use of a feat.Seeker|Executioner, on the other hand, is noteworthy. It's a DEX/WIS Hybrid Talent: Spiritbond build. You get bonus damage on your RBAs, but that's immaterial: more importantly, you a good multi-target at-will that synergizes well with the Executioner poisons you'll be taking instead of the Dailies at bad Seeker levels, like L9. You can use an Assassin encounter power for a touch of mediocre control if you want to pay to maintain a ki focus, but otherwise you can just take Assassin's Strike and get a little extra damage without wasting actions you spend on Seeker powers.Exotic Weapon Training Some Seekers sacrifice the opportunity to use their MC for powerswaps and PP access for the ability to tack additional control onto every hit with a suboptimal weapon. This can be effective (relatively speaking) when done right.Entry Feats Net TrainingBola Training(Giving up all the damage you would have dealt is actually not a good idea) FighterMC Fighter is not really a good place for powerswaps or PP/EDs, but MC Fighter is unique for the Seeker in that you use it to open up feats that will dramatically enhance your battlefield control. Spend a few minutes thinking about what Tidal Spirit Shot does when you're holding a light shield and throwing a Staggering Javelin with Polearm Momentum and Hindering Shield.Fighter|Seeker diverges from the Controller role significantly enough that it's beyond the purview of this guide, though there is a bit of synergy with Deft Hurler Style.Entry Feats Student of the SwordBrawling Warrior Feats Dragging FlailHindering Shield (tricky to use, but if you use a javelin you can stack this with PM)POLEARM MOMENTUM (this is why you MC'd Fighter) InvokerHard control on par with Wizards' on a WIS-based class sounds like a fantastic opportunity to steal some great powers, and it is- the problem is Invoker implements. Invokers use rods and staves, and neither can be used at the same time as a two-handed weapon, restricting the Seeker who poaches Invoker powers to a one-handed weapon (Dagger and Javelin are your best choices) or obliging him to invest in Quickdraw/Fast Hands tricks.Even if you don't want to pick up any attack powers, the U6 Demand Justice is enough to justify MCing Invoker.Seeker|Invokeris great if you MC Cleric for BCL, a slotless implement and 20 WIS. Suffers from MID if you don't Moonbow Dedicate, but this lets you get add some great powers to your arsenal without sacrificing a ton of feats, it comes with a fantastic multi-target at-will, and your HT is free to use as you like.Entry Feats Divine Secretkeeper is the better feat, but that 13 INT requirement is a bummer. Take it if you roll for stats or something.Divine SecretkeeperAcolyte of Divine Secrets Powers D1 Silent MaledictionD5 Searing OrbU6 Demand JusticeD9 Visions of ParadiseE13 Seal of the HereticU16 Walls of HestavarE17 Glyph of RadianceD19 Tomb of Magrym (Don't swap Captivating Missile for this- if you take it, do it at L29)E23 Word of BewildermentE27 Compel ActionD29 Storm of CreationD29 Invoke the Absolute DarkD29 Word of the Gods Paragon Paths Hammer of Vengeance Stonecaller Feats Heaven's ArrowInvoked DevastationReaching Invokation (Only take this if you don't want Invoked Devastation, ie because your party doesn't make room for your unfriendly AoEs) RangerThe Ranger's controller feats are tied to Hunter's Quarry, so there's nothing to offer there, but the class offers a wealth of powerswaps to DEX Seekers (which you are, right?). PMC is not terrible (it lets you snag Clever Shot with Archery Mastery) but at that point you should just hybrid Ranger. Ranger offers a few really good PPs too, which is nice and makes PMC that much less attractive.Ranger|Seeker is my favorite. No MID or juggling necessary, excellent at-will control options to make up for the missing Seeker at-will, good powers all around and good PPs, especially when you have Quarry.Entry Feats Warrior of the Wild Powers E1 Fox's CunningD1 Guardian ArrowU2 Invigorating StrideU2 Stalker's MistE3 Disruptive StrikedD5 Spitting-Cobra Stance (This isn't worth picking up til L9, but at that point it's a great pick)DU6 Evade AmbushD9 Thousand Arrow AwarenessD15 Confounding ArrowsU16 Howling WindsU16 Wall of EarthE17 Entrapping ArrowsE17 Suppressing ShotsD19 Surprising Arrow Stance (pick this up at 25, if this is better than the dominate you get at 19, it's not better by enough to warrant a feat) Paragon Paths Avalanche Hurler (powers are wasted, but this brings thrown weapons up to par)Darkstrider (Blindsense is nice, the powers add control to your toolbox, and Minor Action shift means hidden isn't as hard for you as for some)Giantslayer (U12 and probably 11F are wasted, but powers are really great control)Sylvan Archer (Fantastic powers, though the features don't do a lot, and you have to be an elf) RogueRogue offers some really good control powers for DEX Seekers. Dagger-throwers will especially appreciate them, and will have the freedom to use some of the very tempting melee control powers (hey what's up Knockout how you doin). This MC also offers some really powerful Stealth tools. If only there were more ranged Rattling powers.Seeker|Roguedoes the same thing as Seeker MC Rogue, but doesn't spend so many feats to powerswap. Unfortunately, the Rogue doesn't have any good control At-Wills and none of the Sneak Attack feats bolster your control, so you don't really gain much there. MC is actually better in this case.Entry Feats Sly Dodge (a few good Rogue tricks require Intimidate training- this way you don't waste your Background getting it)Sneak of Shadows (if you don't need Intimidate and don't want to stealth, this at least gives you some bonus damage)Twilight Adept (rating is for those who want to try to use Stealth in combat) Feats Two-Fisted Shooter (Great benefit, but not sky blue because you have to bend over backwards to benefit from it. You want an expanded crit range to go with it, which means dual xbows and Bow Mastery or Jagged/Melegaunt's Dagger mainhand and Master of Arms.) Powers D1 Blinding Barrage (Ignore the damage nerf, you don't care. AoE blind.)U2 Fleeting Ghost (Almost mandatory if you want to Stealth effectively)D9 Knockout (Absolutely worth a quick jaunt into melee)U10 Executioner's Mien (Intimidate training is lame, but adding -2 to hit on all your attacks for an encounter is boss. Don't take this til L16, though, since only unwise people spend a feat to swap out Feywild Jaunt.)E13 Stunning Strike (Almost worth a quick jaunt into melee)U16 Hide In Plain SightE17 Tumbling Strike (Acrobatics training required- this doesn't offer control but I have to mention a minor action attack that lets you get out of melee no questions asked)U22 Invisible StalkerU22 Seize the MomentE27 Pebble to BoulderE27 Perfect Strike (Less accurate than Pebble to Boulder, but more damage and no onerous weapon restriction) Paragon Paths Daring Slinger (This makes slings pretty decent, and adds a little control to boot. Respectable, compared to your other options.)Cloaked Sniper (Not much control on the powers, but pretty decent Stealth/crossbow support) ShamanShamans are leaders, but they have almost as much built-in control as a Seeker. Unfortunately, MC Shaman has the same problem that MC Druid does: It offers implement powers, and totems are some of the least useful implements available. If you MC Druid, you should either be throwing an Alfsair Spear Javelin, or investing in tools like Quickdraw and Fast Hands. To make matters worse, many powers rely on the placement of your Spirit Companion, which you require a Standard action to summon. Many DMs will let you summon your SC during exploration (ie before initiative is rolled) but for those who will not, you'll require Sudden Call/Nimble Spirit early.Seeker|Shaman is best when you spend your HT on Spirit OAs, using it to complement your zone control/movement denial, crank your WIS to 20, and MC Cleric for BCL AND a slotless implement. It's actually pretty rad. Go Human or Half-Elf, and pump DEX as your secondary for Initiative. You don't need it for anything else. The only reason this isn't sky blue is that Shaman encounter powers are mostly worse for control than the Seeker's best ones.Entry Feats Spirit Caller - Spirit Companion OAs Spirit's Wrath (hurray free CA)Spirit's FangsSpirit's Shield (WIS mod healing is not relevant for very long)Spirit's PreyWorld Speaker's Command (no damage, but none of these OA powers will be doing much damage, and this offers good action denial)  Feats Sudden Call (kind of mandatory to get some powers to function)Nimble Spirit (this makes the SC much more useful as a control tool, even if the OA is still 1/enc)Spirit Mender (while you're MCing Shaman, picking up a 1/enc heal can't hurt if you have room) Powers D1 Spirit of Grief's Shadow (One of the few ways you can penalize saving throws, this is only good combined with other Dailies. Consequently, avoid until around L9)U2 Stormhawk Vigilance (The kind of leader power that's nice on anybody, especially if your DM is a **** about making you spend actions to draw weapons during surprise rounds)D5 Shrieking Wind Spirits (Don't take this til L9, but this is friendly AoE daze+forced movement, which is great. The OA will be difficult to trigger unless you try to place the zone over a melee engagement, which is a great idea)D5 Spirit of the Hawk's Wind (Again, don't take til L9, but SC-independent, non-provoking blind with an encounter-long mobility granter is pretty cool)U10 Call Forth the Spirit World (Pretty great attack debuffer- enemies can end it by wasting attacks on your companion, so you win either way. The healing is gravy.)U10 Primal Gust (Cash in on that Striker in your party who took Agile Opportunist)E23 Beguiling CallE23 Spirit of the Vengeful MountainD25 Spirit of the Brain MoleD25 Sunder SpiritD29 Fury of Athas Paragon Paths  Phrenic Master WizardWizards have a couple useful powerswaps, but if you have 13 INT (maybe you rolled for stats or you hate CON) you can MC to get access to Orbs with Daily powers that help you botch enemy saving throws. If there were better ways to do that, I wouldn't even mention MC Wizard.Seeker|Wizard is not red only because while this build will be strictly worse than a straight Wizard, it's probably still better than a straight Seeker, and that's all it needs to be pertinent to this guide. You can go INT/WIS, use a dagger weapliment/Moonbow Dedicate/dual-wield a thrown weapon and an implement, and HT:Orb of Imposition. There's no real synergy, so just try to slot in the few decent Seeker powers in the Wizard's weakest levels.Entry Feats Learned Spellcaster (assuming you have 13 INT for some reason) Powers U2 ShieldU2 Mystical DebrisU6 Wall of FogD9 Wall of FireU10 Wall of Gloom (Take Feywild Jaunt before you take this or Blur)U10 BlurD15 Wall of Ice (Don't take til like... L25)U16 Spatial LockU22 Wall of Force (If only this blocked LoS, it would probably be gold. As it stands teleporters render it useless.)</blockquote>

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