Top 25 Sci-Fi movies/tv (1982-present)

WayneLigon said:
A lot of excellent early 80's movies just miss the 25-year cut: The Day After, for example.

The 'ones we left out' article is on the money and a lot of stuff other have mentioned should have been on there as well. Babylon 5 and Buffy/Angel should be there. Iron Giant certainly should. I'd add The Truman Show, Contact, Alien Nation, Buckaroo Banzai.

Buffy and Angel are not really sci-fi in my opinion, but fit much better into fantasy.

While I appreciate Buckaroo Banzai for what it is, claiming it's a top 25 sci-fi movie is, in my opinion, a joke. It's not even a top 50. It's a cult film, up there below Rocky Horror Picture Show, not a serious sci-fi film.
 

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TheLe said:
I'd also put Space: Above and Beyond on the list well above Battlestar Galactica.

`Le

I liked the show...but really, as far as impact on the field of sci-fi, it's no comparison. 99% of people never even heard of that show!
 

Mistwell said:
I liked the show...but really, as far as impact on the field of sci-fi, it's no comparison. 99% of people never even heard of that show!

How does one measure the "impact on the field of scifi?" Just because many people have not heard of it should not reduce its quality.

`Le
 

Wow, a lotta "no love" for Children of Men when I thought it was perfect Scifi. How do you deal with a terminal illness? How do you deal with a possible way out from that terminal illness?
 

Crothian said:
Horrible list.
List like that are a horrible idea. They always bring forth the worst cases of Cheeto-huffing, knuckle-dragging, basement dwelling, "ZOMG! THEY ARE SOOOOO STUPID, THEY DON'T GET TEH AWESOMENESS"-spouting fanboys (not that there is any of it here), all ranting about how their favorite show isn't represented properly.

They serve no purpose other than generating rancor.
 

TheLe said:
How does one measure the "impact on the field of scifi?" Just because many people have not heard of it should not reduce its quality.

`Le

Because we should strive to judge "best" in an objective manner. Things which are good tend to rise to the top, and things which are bad tend to sink to the bottom. That is not universally the case, but as a general rule it's true. And in this case, "Space Above and Beyond" failed to rise to the top. It did not get the word of mouth necessary to be seen by people, and did not get sufficient viewers to get beyond a single season on a station that was renewing even marginal things at the time. Since it went off the air, it did not gain word of mouth for DVD sales to be any better than slow-marginal, and gets few reruns (and even those are on cable stations only). It doesn't even rank as a cult hit in fact. Objectively speaking, the show was not "the best".
 
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francisca said:
List like that are a horrible idea. They always bring forth the worst cases of Cheeto-huffing, knuckle-dragging, basement dwelling, "ZOMG! THEY ARE SOOOOO STUPID, THEY DON'T GET TEH AWESOMENESS"-spouting fanboys (not that there is any of it here), all ranting about how their favorite show isn't represented properly.

They serve no purpose other than generating rancor.

Best post of the thread.
 

francisca said:
They serve no purpose other than generating rancor.

YOUR POST MAKES ME ANGRY!

Kidding.

THese lists are pretty useful, but they also seem plentiful. There are lots of them. Something about human nature makes us want to do things like itemize lists.
 

If we take the list apart we might see why each was chosen. Trying to fit other show/movies into the list is all personal opinion, as is the list of course, but...

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25. V: the Miniseries (1984) - Amid a sea of comedies, dramas, and Magnum, this show made the networks re-evaluate sci-fi on TV after the original Battlestar Galactica run kinda ruined it. It had a rabid weekly following, and I can remember my oldest sister and I watching it while the rest of the family wondered what kind of crap we were watching when the aliens started eating rats. Talk about controversy!
24. Galaxy Quest (1999) - Think of any other spoof movie out there and you think of low budget O.J. flicks with some great one liners, but not its own plot. Throw in some endearing actors (Sigourney folks! Miss panties fightin' aliens twenty years prior), good effects, and comedy writing not reliant on the one liners, and this movie comes out near the top of any good comedy top 25, and does belong here.
23. Dr. Who (1963-Present) - Classic. If you've seen it you know it belongs here and why, although one could make a good argument to have it closer to the top ten.
22. Quantum Leap (1989-1993) - Good science fiction because the story and people make the show, with compelling themes that challenge our notions of the way things were, and often times still are, but shouldn't be.
21. Futurama (1999-2003) - Good show, good parody, good format. Not the best in any area, but it does deliver.
20. Star Wars: Clone Wars (2003-2005) - I liked this series of shorts, but I'm still trying to figure out why this is here in place of any of the movies???
19. Starship Troopers (1997) - Symbolism, over-the-top characters and story, massive battles between invaders and the invaded (notice which is which), and a fun movie. Exteme sci-fi at its finest.
18. Heroes (2006-Present) - So far it hasn't changed much of anything that I can tell in the TV business, other than to let the execs know that the superhero crowd is willing to make the jump to the small screen with a good show. It is interesting for the super-hero crowd to watch to get a 'more realistic' idea of how people would act and react given superpowers. Definately no spandex, although they are still an attractive bunch.
17. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) - Help me out here someone.
16. Total Recall (1990) - Talk about changing your mind! Instead of just an Ah-nold shoot 'em up with ray guns, this movie had some brains and a message.
15. Firefly / Serenity (2002/2005) - Fandom carries over with its creator. OK series, watchable movie. Joss' fans put this on the list for there fervor and tenacity in getting Serenity greenlit, and the show and movie on this list.
14. Children of Men (2006) - Stunning movie, visually and emotionally. The theme and story seem like you've seen them/read them before, which is probably why some people glossed this one over.
13. The Terminator / Terminator 2 (1984 /1991) - The apocalypse is caused by our Commondore 64, oh crap! Computers just started hitting it off in the public sector and someone tells us that automation and reliance on the artificial will be our doom. Who isn't rooting for the machines just a bit. That, and "the future is what we make of it" and not set in stone combined years of science fiction thought together in two great flicks.
12. Back to the Future (1985) - Change your future or your past to get the hot girl, family you always wanted, and re-make your dull parents into cool ones! Where can I get a DeLorean time machine? Before this, time travel was about changing the world for the betterment of mankind. BttF personalizes it, making it accessable and fun.
11. Lost (2004-Present) - Just when you have it figured out, bam, you're Lost again. The use of the internet to keep up interest between seasons was a good example of internet hype working for a show/movie.
10. The Thing (1982) - I love BG in its current format, however the show borrows heavily from Carpenter for its paranoia element. The setting and the gross-out effects set this movie apart from similar concepts and movies like Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
09. Aliens (1986) - Edge of your seat action and thrills. Great special effects and timing make even a known threat fresh. Alien had a synthetic screwing the humans over, but this one gave it a human face for that face hugger.
08. Star Trek: The Next Generation (1987-1994) - The original series set the standard, and DS9 reaped the benefits of TOS and TNG's successes, however TNG paved the way for all successive ST shows, and for a lot of science fiction television as well. They were serious about the science, about the characters, about continuity, and about the fans.
07. E.T. (1982) - There is a reason this is one of the highest grossing films of all time, but most of us grew up with E.T., or became jaded from flashier, smarter, and hipper movies and shows that came after, but this one gave sci-fi a heart and soul.
06. Brazil (1985) - Still not sure about this movie, I'll have to rewatch it in the near future to see if it affects me more than it did when I was a teenager when it came out.
05. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982) - ST: TMP didn't start any fires, but Khan reintroduced a classic villain from the show while giving him a doomsday machine en route to his revenge binge on Kirk. Another good sci-fi movie released in a Star Wars dominated stretch helped establish the genre as a viable medium for good storytelling and profits for the studios.
04. X-Files (1993-2002) - It seems like more than a decade has passed since Mulder and Scully fought aliens and monsters. It embedded itself in the culture and psyche of fans and detractors so well that it became a phenomenon that transcended cult statis to go mainstream.
03. Blade Runner (1982) - Hypnotic view of the future with so many nuances and takes on what it is to be human. Violent and beautiful with a dark vision of our future that makes you take notice.
02. Battlestar Galactica (2003-Present) - Everyone laughed at the concept of remaking Battlestar. Cheesy part 2. No one is laughing now. God, man, machine. Paranoia, survival, redemption. The fight for humanity isn't always a fight against the toasters.
01. The Matrix (1999) - Philosophy and sci-fi. Existentialism and kung fu. Could Neo be anywhere on the list other than at number 1? Is this for real, or is it part of the Matrix?
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And now with annotations...

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25. V: the Miniseries (1984) -- umm, okay. Not much more.
24. Galaxy Quest (1999) -- hysterical! Great movie! But it only works if you are really into the genre and the scene
23. Dr. Who (1963-Present) -- Forget the costumes and sets, this has been a consistently intelligently written show for decades.
22. Quantum Leap (1989-1993) -- boring
21. Futurama (1999-2003) -- hit & miss
20. Star Wars: Clone Wars (2003-2005) -- Lucas lost it after Return of the Jedi...
19. Starship Troopers (1997) -- Bad Heinlein becomes a worse movie
18. Heroes (2006-Present) -- Great characters! Now about that plot...
17. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) -- haven't seen
16. Total Recall (1990) -- Yuk. Excrement on a stick.
15. Firefly / Serenity (2002/2005) -- Nope. Don't like it. Never will.
14. Children of Men (2006) -- Interesting concept, but not well fleshed out.
13. The Terminator / Terminator 2 (1984 /1991) -- Pretty darn good.
12. Back to the Future (1985) -- Okay-ish. Not on my top list, but okay.
11. Lost (2004-Present) -- Haven't seen.
10. The Thing (1982) -- Okay-ish.
09. Aliens (1986) -- Alien was better
08. Star Trek: The Next Generation (1987-1994) -- Very, very dated. ST: DS9 stands up better over time and, realistically, I think they should have given the nod to ST: TOS to be fair
07. E.T. (1982) -- Yuk. Kewtsy pabalum.
06. Brazil (1985) -- YEAH! One of the most brilliant black comedies ever filmed!
05. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982) -- Very well done, but works best if you already know the original episode
04. X-Files (1993-2002) -- A great show where the last two-three seasons spun utterly out of control
03. Blade Runner (1982) -- Umm, looks pretty. Can I please, please, please get some of the Noir voiceovers back? The cityscapes get damn boring.
02. Battlestar Galactica (2003-Present) -- The first season was fantastic! Then it slipped...
01. The Matrix (1999) -- Marginal, at best.
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And where, pray tell, is Ghostbusters?
 

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