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Totally underwhelmed by 5e bladesinger, am I missing something?
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<blockquote data-quote="Dualazi" data-source="post: 6926834" data-attributes="member: 6855537"><p>You’re not the slightest bit more versatile, since you traded versatility in other forms for bladesong. Portent adds to wizard versatility. Summoning huge mobs of powerful undead is versatility. Using AoE without endangering allies is versatility. The argument is that buffing your AC is a less useful choice as a wizard subclass than the alternatives, to which you have offered no rebuttal.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then he probably uses a direct damage spell instead. Not exactly rocket science, the point is that his AoE options are more consistently available than yours (should you use them) and that this increases his value to the party through wide killing potential. Furthermore, potent cantrip and empowered evocation are good for single or multi target spells, so he’s simply trading your defense in favor of killing power, and offense is commonly held to be the better option since ‘dead’ is the ultimate crowd control.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>He probably pops a shield or similar reactive spell, same as you. His AC won’t be as phenomenal, but by high level this doesn’t really matter since enemies frequently have potent spellcasting/breath weapons of their own and AC is less valuable. Lastly, your AC isn’t going to matter in a couple levels anyway, since enemies are going to be reliably rocking +11-17 to hit, so even your vaunted 27 AC won’t save you. This is one of the reasons that barbarians are sometimes cited as more of a tank than fighters; at high level effective HP becomes far more important than AC.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It increases survivability only when AC is the subject of the attack, so it doesn’t really ‘ensure’ anything. That’s not necessarily bad, but it’s more niche in application than the evoker’s damage bonus which works on every opponent he faces. It’s certainly not ‘OP’ in any sense of the term, and can be overcome in a variety of ways.</p><p>As an aside, 1d8+5 damage is incredibly low for 8[SUP]th[/SUP] level, even with 2 attacks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dualazi, post: 6926834, member: 6855537"] You’re not the slightest bit more versatile, since you traded versatility in other forms for bladesong. Portent adds to wizard versatility. Summoning huge mobs of powerful undead is versatility. Using AoE without endangering allies is versatility. The argument is that buffing your AC is a less useful choice as a wizard subclass than the alternatives, to which you have offered no rebuttal. Then he probably uses a direct damage spell instead. Not exactly rocket science, the point is that his AoE options are more consistently available than yours (should you use them) and that this increases his value to the party through wide killing potential. Furthermore, potent cantrip and empowered evocation are good for single or multi target spells, so he’s simply trading your defense in favor of killing power, and offense is commonly held to be the better option since ‘dead’ is the ultimate crowd control. He probably pops a shield or similar reactive spell, same as you. His AC won’t be as phenomenal, but by high level this doesn’t really matter since enemies frequently have potent spellcasting/breath weapons of their own and AC is less valuable. Lastly, your AC isn’t going to matter in a couple levels anyway, since enemies are going to be reliably rocking +11-17 to hit, so even your vaunted 27 AC won’t save you. This is one of the reasons that barbarians are sometimes cited as more of a tank than fighters; at high level effective HP becomes far more important than AC. It increases survivability only when AC is the subject of the attack, so it doesn’t really ‘ensure’ anything. That’s not necessarily bad, but it’s more niche in application than the evoker’s damage bonus which works on every opponent he faces. It’s certainly not ‘OP’ in any sense of the term, and can be overcome in a variety of ways. As an aside, 1d8+5 damage is incredibly low for 8[SUP]th[/SUP] level, even with 2 attacks. [/QUOTE]
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