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Totally underwhelmed by 5e bladesinger, am I missing something?
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<blockquote data-quote="WarpedAcorn" data-source="post: 6927006" data-attributes="member: 6819400"><p>I remember back in 3rd Edition when I was doing Living Greyhawk that I could not wait until I qualified for Bladesinger. Something about it was super alluring and I was in love with the idea. When I actually qualified for the class I ended up not taking it. During the journey to get there I had noticed that what the Bladesinger did was not syncing up with how I was playing and what my roles in the group had been. Ultimately instead of Bladesinger I went Spellsword and I still think that it was a better choice at the time. </p><p></p><p>Fast forward to 5th Edition. At first Bladesinger looked super awesome and OP. It has a lot of flash and a lot of things that appeal to people looking for a gish build, especially when compared to the traditional Schools that only get a couple of abilities. But after the initial shock and awe wore off I thought that it looked pretty good, but was by no means OP. </p><p></p><p>Recently, one of the players at our table has rolled a Bladesinger, so I've gotten to see it in action. Overall, I'm not super impressed (and he has a 20 in Dex & Int). I definitely don't think its a bad choice, and having that bonus AC can be a huge benefit...but I think the build gives off the vibe that the Wizard should be up on the front lines, and I think that is a trap. I admit, the AC boost is significant, and by burning spell slots you can get even higher AC, but you still have Wizard HP. All it takes is one Crit and you are out of the fight. </p><p></p><p>I know Horwatch mentioned that you can outdo Cantrip damage with the melee attacks, but at the same time being in melee puts you at a bigger risk. Bladesinger definitely gives you that option though.</p><p></p><p>Overall, I think Bladesinger as a Wizard Specialty is just fine. I'm not sure of the numbers crunching how it would compare to an Abjurer in terms of straight defense, but I don't think it would be leaps and bounds ahead. And like I mentioned, the biggest pitfall of Bladesinger is tricking the player into thinking they are Eldritch Knights or that their default place is on the front lines. Afterall, a Bladesinger is still a Wizard.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WarpedAcorn, post: 6927006, member: 6819400"] I remember back in 3rd Edition when I was doing Living Greyhawk that I could not wait until I qualified for Bladesinger. Something about it was super alluring and I was in love with the idea. When I actually qualified for the class I ended up not taking it. During the journey to get there I had noticed that what the Bladesinger did was not syncing up with how I was playing and what my roles in the group had been. Ultimately instead of Bladesinger I went Spellsword and I still think that it was a better choice at the time. Fast forward to 5th Edition. At first Bladesinger looked super awesome and OP. It has a lot of flash and a lot of things that appeal to people looking for a gish build, especially when compared to the traditional Schools that only get a couple of abilities. But after the initial shock and awe wore off I thought that it looked pretty good, but was by no means OP. Recently, one of the players at our table has rolled a Bladesinger, so I've gotten to see it in action. Overall, I'm not super impressed (and he has a 20 in Dex & Int). I definitely don't think its a bad choice, and having that bonus AC can be a huge benefit...but I think the build gives off the vibe that the Wizard should be up on the front lines, and I think that is a trap. I admit, the AC boost is significant, and by burning spell slots you can get even higher AC, but you still have Wizard HP. All it takes is one Crit and you are out of the fight. I know Horwatch mentioned that you can outdo Cantrip damage with the melee attacks, but at the same time being in melee puts you at a bigger risk. Bladesinger definitely gives you that option though. Overall, I think Bladesinger as a Wizard Specialty is just fine. I'm not sure of the numbers crunching how it would compare to an Abjurer in terms of straight defense, but I don't think it would be leaps and bounds ahead. And like I mentioned, the biggest pitfall of Bladesinger is tricking the player into thinking they are Eldritch Knights or that their default place is on the front lines. Afterall, a Bladesinger is still a Wizard. [/QUOTE]
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