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Totally underwhelmed by 5e bladesinger, am I missing something?
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<blockquote data-quote="ThePolarBear" data-source="post: 6930130" data-attributes="member: 6857451"><p>Some misconceptions:</p><p>Mirror Images occupy the same space as the caster. They appear there. And while they move, it's never stated that they ever leave the space.</p><p></p><p>As Neogod22 said, you do not have to choose what to attack: the spell takes care of it. Also, targeting is not impaired, so any spell that targets the caster and has a save, or any effect of that type, still is applied to the "right" target.</p><p></p><p>The default assumption for blind people is that, shockingly, they do not have to guess anything as long as they can hear the target. By the rules you can target by hearing - it is specified that "This is true whether you're guessing the target's location or you're targeting a creature you can hear but not see." (PHB - 194; The "that" that is true is "rolling with disadvantage). Being invisible is not enough to prompt a creature to be silent - as is combat: The rules are for combat specifically, after all. The creature in question would need to roll Stealth by taking the Hide action or to have some specific occurrence (zone of silence and so on) that mechanically allows them to be unheard or some specific occurrence (great distance, particularly loud beckground noises...) that prompt for DM adjudication.</p><p></p><p>If unsure, think of this situation: we have a rogue and a wizard. Both are not in combat. The wizard casts invisibility, the rogue hides with a 22 as a result of the dice. A group of "insert monster" comes. Passive perception 18. The Rogue is still hidden, but what about the wizard? It isnt. He did not bother to move slowly and silently, or to not leave trace. Combat begins, and the "insert monster" notices the wizard. The wizard was not hidden so the wizard was heard. And can be targeted.</p><p>If the wizard bothered hiding he would have rolled and prehaps remained hidden. Or still be spotted, because he wasn't quiet enough. And thus can be targeted (and nobody is surprised)</p><p></p><p>Having the wizard "hidden" for free is a houserule and imho a bad one at that. It completely disregards an ability and limitations that other cases have to abide to gain the same benefits, while in the same situation - being unseen.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ThePolarBear, post: 6930130, member: 6857451"] Some misconceptions: Mirror Images occupy the same space as the caster. They appear there. And while they move, it's never stated that they ever leave the space. As Neogod22 said, you do not have to choose what to attack: the spell takes care of it. Also, targeting is not impaired, so any spell that targets the caster and has a save, or any effect of that type, still is applied to the "right" target. The default assumption for blind people is that, shockingly, they do not have to guess anything as long as they can hear the target. By the rules you can target by hearing - it is specified that "This is true whether you're guessing the target's location or you're targeting a creature you can hear but not see." (PHB - 194; The "that" that is true is "rolling with disadvantage). Being invisible is not enough to prompt a creature to be silent - as is combat: The rules are for combat specifically, after all. The creature in question would need to roll Stealth by taking the Hide action or to have some specific occurrence (zone of silence and so on) that mechanically allows them to be unheard or some specific occurrence (great distance, particularly loud beckground noises...) that prompt for DM adjudication. If unsure, think of this situation: we have a rogue and a wizard. Both are not in combat. The wizard casts invisibility, the rogue hides with a 22 as a result of the dice. A group of "insert monster" comes. Passive perception 18. The Rogue is still hidden, but what about the wizard? It isnt. He did not bother to move slowly and silently, or to not leave trace. Combat begins, and the "insert monster" notices the wizard. The wizard was not hidden so the wizard was heard. And can be targeted. If the wizard bothered hiding he would have rolled and prehaps remained hidden. Or still be spotted, because he wasn't quiet enough. And thus can be targeted (and nobody is surprised) Having the wizard "hidden" for free is a houserule and imho a bad one at that. It completely disregards an ability and limitations that other cases have to abide to gain the same benefits, while in the same situation - being unseen. [/QUOTE]
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