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Totally underwhelmed by 5e bladesinger, am I missing something?
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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 6932441" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>You cant hide as a free action. Its an action (a bonus action for Rogues). And wizards generally suck at it (not being proficient in Stealth, and not having great Dex scores).</p><p></p><p>Being invisible simply lets you attempt the hide action whenever you want. It 'counts as' heavy obscurement and negates the 'you can only attempt to become hidden when a creature cant see you clearly enough' rule.</p><p></p><p>Nothing stopping you casting invisibilty and then (on your next turn) using your action to Hide. As long as you roll higher than your opponents passive perception, you're hidden until you give yourself away or he succesfully uses the Search action to find you.</p><p></p><p>As long as you remain invisible and hidden, he has to randomly pick what square to target (he doesnt know where you are). If you're only invisible the game assumes he knows roughly where you are (from sound, smell, traces of your passage such as footprints, compressed carpet or grass, swirls of smoke or debris in the air etc) with enough precision he can attack you (at disadvantage).</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>It most certainly is. If youre blinded (or have your eyes closed):</p><p></p><p>1) You cant make AoO's</p><p>2) All attacks on you have advantage</p><p>3) All attacks you make have disadvantage</p><p>4) You cant cast most spells (hold person, power word kill, charm person etc all require 'a target you can see')</p><p>5) Creatures can attempt the Hide action at will, and if succesful you will need to guess where they are before you can even attempt to attack them.</p><p></p><p>Its a hefty list of disadvantages.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 6932441, member: 6788736"] You cant hide as a free action. Its an action (a bonus action for Rogues). And wizards generally suck at it (not being proficient in Stealth, and not having great Dex scores). Being invisible simply lets you attempt the hide action whenever you want. It 'counts as' heavy obscurement and negates the 'you can only attempt to become hidden when a creature cant see you clearly enough' rule. Nothing stopping you casting invisibilty and then (on your next turn) using your action to Hide. As long as you roll higher than your opponents passive perception, you're hidden until you give yourself away or he succesfully uses the Search action to find you. As long as you remain invisible and hidden, he has to randomly pick what square to target (he doesnt know where you are). If you're only invisible the game assumes he knows roughly where you are (from sound, smell, traces of your passage such as footprints, compressed carpet or grass, swirls of smoke or debris in the air etc) with enough precision he can attack you (at disadvantage). It most certainly is. If youre blinded (or have your eyes closed): 1) You cant make AoO's 2) All attacks on you have advantage 3) All attacks you make have disadvantage 4) You cant cast most spells (hold person, power word kill, charm person etc all require 'a target you can see') 5) Creatures can attempt the Hide action at will, and if succesful you will need to guess where they are before you can even attempt to attack them. Its a hefty list of disadvantages. [/QUOTE]
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