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Totally underwhelmed by 5e bladesinger, am I missing something?
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<blockquote data-quote="ThePolarBear" data-source="post: 6932809" data-attributes="member: 6857451"><p>Things that are more useful but EK has access to too:</p><p>Levitate - probably better save numbers/earlier access/short range so better suited for the fray than distance (other wizards comparison - this is going to be used a lot -)</p><p>Counterspell(other "low" level spells) - Earlier access/better spellcasting check/short range/will take it anyway since spells are the bane</p><p>Greater Invisibility - Better all around defense/higher con checks/EK lvl20</p><p>Polymorph - Not good to be used on oneself - losing access to all abilities will hurt - but helpful to save frontliner. Ek can have it too, but at lvl 20.</p><p>Fire Shield/Stoneskin - Both great, Stoneskin is better than on other casters if self cast due to higher con checks</p><p>Stone Shape - Last minute cover, pit under the enemy, difficult terrain...</p><p></p><p>Every upscaled version over 4th level spell slot: EK can't do it. So mass hold person or things like that.</p><p></p><p>Now in random order: Foresight/Shapechange and on a lesser scale True Polimorph/Last minute True sight, Mind Blank, Teleport on frontliners/Globe of invulnerability and Antimagic Shield covering frontliners without losing abilities to fight effectively/Eyebite?/Little houserule to mordekainen sword to be able to be used as an weapon, picked up and dropped as a bonus action, since imho the spell is very lacking?/Bigby Hand for cover - grapple - push - more damage.</p><p></p><p>I'm sure i'm missing something obvious.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I already aknowledged my error on Tremorsense before you posted. I have no idea where i asked you about Blindsight. I know what Blindsight is. I did not know what the blindifghting you told me the ranger had was. Other people already have answered for you, thanks.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I never tought about Alert that way. But with the new errata you are 100% correct sir <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ooooh thank you.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I guess i'll just stop derailing the thread unilaterally <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> It's strangely difficult.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ThePolarBear, post: 6932809, member: 6857451"] Things that are more useful but EK has access to too: Levitate - probably better save numbers/earlier access/short range so better suited for the fray than distance (other wizards comparison - this is going to be used a lot -) Counterspell(other "low" level spells) - Earlier access/better spellcasting check/short range/will take it anyway since spells are the bane Greater Invisibility - Better all around defense/higher con checks/EK lvl20 Polymorph - Not good to be used on oneself - losing access to all abilities will hurt - but helpful to save frontliner. Ek can have it too, but at lvl 20. Fire Shield/Stoneskin - Both great, Stoneskin is better than on other casters if self cast due to higher con checks Stone Shape - Last minute cover, pit under the enemy, difficult terrain... Every upscaled version over 4th level spell slot: EK can't do it. So mass hold person or things like that. Now in random order: Foresight/Shapechange and on a lesser scale True Polimorph/Last minute True sight, Mind Blank, Teleport on frontliners/Globe of invulnerability and Antimagic Shield covering frontliners without losing abilities to fight effectively/Eyebite?/Little houserule to mordekainen sword to be able to be used as an weapon, picked up and dropped as a bonus action, since imho the spell is very lacking?/Bigby Hand for cover - grapple - push - more damage. I'm sure i'm missing something obvious. I already aknowledged my error on Tremorsense before you posted. I have no idea where i asked you about Blindsight. I know what Blindsight is. I did not know what the blindifghting you told me the ranger had was. Other people already have answered for you, thanks. I never tought about Alert that way. But with the new errata you are 100% correct sir :D Ooooh thank you. I guess i'll just stop derailing the thread unilaterally :D It's strangely difficult. [/QUOTE]
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