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Totally underwhelmed by 5e bladesinger, am I missing something?
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<blockquote data-quote="Prism" data-source="post: 6933639" data-attributes="member: 9501"><p>Well you can't follow the sound of its buzzing wings if you can't hear them. Moving silently using a stealth check is a valid use of a dex (stealth) check. What if there were several pixies all at range, invisible and moving quietly? Can a character track them all even if they don't use the hide action?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe there is but it seems like an unnecessary addition to a spell just to preserve the must hide as an action rule.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We are in agreement here except for the extreme circumstances part and how often we would apply it. The description of stealth in the PHB gives several examples of use. 'Conceal yourself from enemies' seems to lend it self well to a standard hide check requiring an action in combat. 'Slip away without being noticed' and 'sneak up on someone without being heard' for me are both move based checks and are entirely suitable for someone already unseen (invisible, in darkness, out of the room).</p><p></p><p>I guess I am coming at this more from the DM side where I would want to create an encounter with pixies, drow etc that rely heavily on their stealth abilities without me having to force the must hide action to make use of them each round. I would be perfectly happy for the party wizard to do the same though. For the amount of times it happens it shouldn't step on the toes of the rogue. Besides, it also free's the rogue of for some more movement if they also don't need to hide when invisible.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Prism, post: 6933639, member: 9501"] Well you can't follow the sound of its buzzing wings if you can't hear them. Moving silently using a stealth check is a valid use of a dex (stealth) check. What if there were several pixies all at range, invisible and moving quietly? Can a character track them all even if they don't use the hide action? Maybe there is but it seems like an unnecessary addition to a spell just to preserve the must hide as an action rule. We are in agreement here except for the extreme circumstances part and how often we would apply it. The description of stealth in the PHB gives several examples of use. 'Conceal yourself from enemies' seems to lend it self well to a standard hide check requiring an action in combat. 'Slip away without being noticed' and 'sneak up on someone without being heard' for me are both move based checks and are entirely suitable for someone already unseen (invisible, in darkness, out of the room). I guess I am coming at this more from the DM side where I would want to create an encounter with pixies, drow etc that rely heavily on their stealth abilities without me having to force the must hide action to make use of them each round. I would be perfectly happy for the party wizard to do the same though. For the amount of times it happens it shouldn't step on the toes of the rogue. Besides, it also free's the rogue of for some more movement if they also don't need to hide when invisible. [/QUOTE]
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