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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 5436566" data-attributes="member: 54877">I thought about 1E when I wrote that, but that choice given to the players does change it somewhat. Also, see my later followup on restricting the percentage of a level that can be bought this way. But the larger abuse issues I think relate back to what you are trying to achieve: 1. I'm running a cut-throat, resource counting game? Then all those problems you listed are now benefits. Money is just another lever that clever players can manipulate. I find in that kind of game, the best way to prevent dominance is to provide many levers.  2. I'm running something more traditionally cooperative? Then all "training costs" do is provide a money sink and a simulation gloss for why that money sink occurs, perhaps with a side of resource manipulation, but at the party level. That is, if this is what is going on, then the best way for the party to maximize their potential is to see that everyone gets plenty of gold. In those cases, none of those abuses will ever arise. In other words, in this case, it's mostly level pacing, with that side of resource manipulation. Set the rules on the pacing part to whatever works. OTOH, to the extent that you want resource manipulation, expect the players to manipulate the resources given to them. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> And in fact, if I use this idea, the biggest issue I could have is that the players will be tempted to donate gold from their character to another players' character, in order to help the party. That's the biggest reason I would have the percentage of a level restriction. As for magic items, this is another difference between this suggestion and 1E. It's not totally abstract, and not mandatory for every gold piece. So include magic items or not, in the gold economy. Your call. Me, I'm already making it difficult and not very rewarding to sell magic. So if the players manage to do that and score some extra gold, then put it into training, no biggie. That's the advantage of having them actually spend the gold to get the training to get the XP, no matter how thin the rationalization: You've still got that ever so thin rationalization, and can overrule the too thin ones as needed--except now you have two places to do so, what gets sold for how much, and where and when training can be bought, for how much.  But personally, I find the prospect of someone trading a bag of tricks for a few druid points rather amusing. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

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