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TROLL POLL #1: d20 Golden Era or Glut?
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<blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 947106" data-attributes="member: 172"><p>That's the kind of thing I don't like. It feels so tacked on. It reminds me (painfully) of the old "netbooks", just printed.</p><p></p><p>This whole "spend raw XP for abilities" thing I find rather dubious. I can sort of see prestige races and similar mechnics in the context of the setting, but really, for general use, it's a bust. It bypasses levels, which is a major underpinning of the game. For example, let's say that you have a party of characters who all take guildcraft guilds, Path of the Sword schools, and/or Prestige Races. They are all more powerful than their level indicated, but they will be gaining XP faster due to the XP tables. So they really don't lose as much as you think.</p><p></p><p>I would agree that there needs to be some freshness and innovation, but things like the "xp for ability things" are just not functional and feels entirely tacked on.</p><p></p><p>BAB is one of the stickier points of the d20 system; I am surprised that no d20 game has ditched BAB and made weapons skills. Wouldn't work for a D&D targeted supplement, but would work for a d20 game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Psion, post: 947106, member: 172"] That's the kind of thing I don't like. It feels so tacked on. It reminds me (painfully) of the old "netbooks", just printed. This whole "spend raw XP for abilities" thing I find rather dubious. I can sort of see prestige races and similar mechnics in the context of the setting, but really, for general use, it's a bust. It bypasses levels, which is a major underpinning of the game. For example, let's say that you have a party of characters who all take guildcraft guilds, Path of the Sword schools, and/or Prestige Races. They are all more powerful than their level indicated, but they will be gaining XP faster due to the XP tables. So they really don't lose as much as you think. I would agree that there needs to be some freshness and innovation, but things like the "xp for ability things" are just not functional and feels entirely tacked on. BAB is one of the stickier points of the d20 system; I am surprised that no d20 game has ditched BAB and made weapons skills. Wouldn't work for a D&D targeted supplement, but would work for a d20 game. [/QUOTE]
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