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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 947197" data-attributes="member: 172">So, what you seem to be saying here is that it works if you jimmy around the rest of the system to accomodate it. Well, that may be the case, but the necessity to do so is a problem with the options. If the systems were well written, they would dovetail with the existing rules.For example, prestige races might have worked better if they came with an "ECL" modifier. Fairies were oh so close  to getting this right but oh so far away. They had the idea of incremental ECL modifiers for abilities in the races in the same chapter as a number or prestige races... but they never really explain whether or how the ECL modifier is worked into your class and level.But let me tell you about my experience. After having experienced 2e and 2.5e, in which you had to jimmy things around to get them to work, I am loath to jimmy things around just to get them to work. I prefer rules that take the implications into consideration, and find in the long run they are MORE accomodating to player's desires since they don't have to require the GM intervention to implement a new concept that they have.I think the greatest benefit of d20 over prior edition official supplements is that the former is not canon and therefore easily ignored.</blockquote>