Trollhaunt Warrens - Item Question [minor spoiler]

[Thanee]

There is an item found in the adventure King of the Trollhaunt Warrens, which we could not find in the books...

[SBLOCK=Item]It's a Symbol of Despair +3[/SBLOCK]

[SBLOCK=Found in]It's found in the room where the Troll smith is with the Grimlocks and that big fire lizard.[/SBLOCK]

Any idea what that might be?

Bye
Thanee

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Strangely enough, the Compendium is failing me, so... Might it be an error?

 

[Thanee]

Seems likely.

Bye
Thanee

 

[kerbarian]

There are no rules for it. Apparently an NPC in Dungeon 163 (in House of Pain) also carries one, but there are no rules for it there, either. IMC, I decided that a suitable substitution would be:
[sblock]+3 Symbol of Reproach (AV). It's as close as I could find to the opposite of a Symbol of Hope.[/sblock]

 

[Jhaelen]

There are no rules for it. Apparently an NPC in Dungeon 163 (in House of Pain) also carries one, but there are no rules for it there, either. IMC, I decided that a suitable substitution would be:
[sblock]+3 Symbol of Reproach (AV). It's as close as I could find to the opposite of a Symbol of Hope.[/sblock]

That's similar to what I did:
[sblock]I used the +3 Symbol of Hope as a basis and reversed the effect, i.e. the daily power applies a -5 penalty to an enemy's next saving throw.[/sblock]

 

[Beckett]

I don't recall how I handled it. Was there a holy symbol introduced in Book 1? If not, I might have inserted one of the neck items from there.

 

[Thanee]

We just rolled one randomly from the +3 holy symbols available in PHB and AV and ended up with a Holy Symbol of Divinity +3.

Bye
Thanee

 

[OchreJelly]

I'm glad I wasn't the only one puzzled by this. I looked all over compendium, phb, AV, and the adventure itself. I think I replaced it with a shield.

 

[CapnZapp]

There are no rules for it. Apparently an NPC in Dungeon 163 (in House of Pain) also carries one, but there are no rules for it there, either.

I actually think it's kind of cool to have one or two items that are completely open to DMs to define themselves!

But seriously, it can't be that this power has been detailed on some obscure promo card or in the RPGA or somewhere where it got lost before DDI data input day? And there isn't any other effect with "despair" in the name, or that there is a misspelling?

Edit: Searching for "despair" in the Compendium yields one race, one class, six items, 33 creatures, two EDs, six PPs, two powers and two traps. Could it be buried in there somewhere...?

 

[OchreJelly]

My inclination is that it's either a typo or that maybe it got edited out of the adventure but the reference wasn't removed. Haven't we seen similar issues with H1?